Coding requirements

codprawn · 18 January 2006, 04:25

No doubt asked before but there is so much to wade through.....

What sort of equipment is a RIB supposed to have built in for coding?

What I mean is stuff like twin batteries - bilge pumps etc rather than loose equipment like liferafts.

Jimbob · 18 January 2006, 07:46

Are you going for local codeing or MCA coding. If you look there is a tread that give the MCA doc number, just need to read it. Most things alot of people would put on a decent sized rib anyway, e.g twin batteries. Liferafts is the expensive part.

The difference betwen local and MCA coding i found was little

Jono Garton · 18 January 2006, 10:01

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Originally Posted by codprawn

No doubt asked before but there is so much to wade through.....

What sort of equipment is a RIB supposed to have built in for coding?

What I mean is stuff like twin batteries - bilge pumps etc rather than loose equipment like liferafts.

Coding a Pro Sport

Ive been down this route before

Jono · 18 January 2006, 10:56

..apart from just plain laughing..like t'other Jono.. the first thing you might want to look at is your fuel delivery system.. are the pipes the right spec. etc... before you go too much further with the build.... We(Jono, Ian and myself) have seen Prosports without "proper" fuel pipe... Jason should have sorted this by now though... but as your boat was laid down such a long time ago.. you might want to have a good before you go to far.. what's the tank made of?

Jono Garton · 18 January 2006, 11:42

Codders

What shaft length is your outboard?

Jono · 18 January 2006, 11:50

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Originally Posted by Jono Garton

Codders

What shaft length is your outboard?

Dude.. I think it's on a jack plate.. so transom freeboard should be okay... without some fat b****d standing up the pointy end when surveyor is on board......

viz-a-viz pallet size.... info on its way toute de bloody suite...

codprawn · 18 January 2006, 16:45

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Originally Posted by Jono

..apart from just plain laughing..like t'other Jono.. the first thing you might want to look at is your fuel delivery system.. are the pipes the right spec. etc... before you go too much further with the build.... We(Jono, Ian and myself) have seen Prosports without "proper" fuel pipe... Jason should have sorted this by now though... but as your boat was laid down such a long time ago.. you might want to have a good before you go to far.. what's the tank made of?

Well he has built a few coded boats now!!!

They are fibreglass tanks - 2 of them. Boat was laid down ages ago but finishing work etc done recently.

What exactly is the score with this freeboard thing??? I bet it varies considerably in the way the surveyors interprate it - some boats don't even have transoms do they???

Jono · 18 January 2006, 17:02

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Originally Posted by codprawn

Well he has built a few coded boats now!!!

Splendid... so all the pipes are marked as the right grade, including the vent/fill pipes and they're all routed properly. That's a good start then.

Jono Garton · 18 January 2006, 17:13

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Originally Posted by codprawn

They are fibreglass tanks

Is that the ones when you add petrol they turn to jelly type meterial and start letting off fibres in to the fuel filter?

codprawn · 18 January 2006, 17:16

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Originally Posted by Jono Garton

Is that the ones when you add petrol they turn to jelly type meterial and start letting off fibres in to the fuel filter?

Hopefully not - with a bit of luck they will be made in the same way as underground filling station tanks - many of which are now fibreglass!!!

Jono Garton · 18 January 2006, 17:23

Do pro sport make underground filling station tanks?

Make sure pro sport give you a ISO10088 certificate for your fuel tank

Rogue Wave · 18 January 2006, 20:22

you will need a hydrocarbon sniffer, I believe thats a good thing to install as the boats being built

DepSol · 18 January 2006, 21:18

If I remember rightly you had or stiill have a Shakespeare which you were partly responcible for the build. You know the one Jono, where you have to put the full fuel cans of Petrol up in the locker up front to get the boat to plane, the one with the A-frame looked as if it had been made from scaffold poles bent over the edge of your work bench (now thats what you call a right angle), seat pods made of blocks of foam covered in black plastic with no supports and the finish of it ouch need I go on.

Funny enough we just had a survey done on one of the last boats we built, (twin Volvo D3 160s, 46 knots and turns like its on rails with full hydraulic steering to) and when we were half way through the float test the surveyor was very impressed. Passed that with flying colours.

So coding a Pro sport is fine and if yours passed then Vince has nowt to worry about.

Dom

Jono Garton · 18 January 2006, 21:26

Dom

Obviously hit a nerve

Jono · 19 January 2006, 07:11

Dom,

T'other Jono is a little less diplomatic than me, but there's no need to "go on one". All you needed to do was confirm that Prosport now use the correctly marked fuel pipe for supply, fill and vent and that the correct resin/construction is used in the tanks. This would suffice. The boats supplied to the "North Wales" crew had to have their pipes changed as they wouldn't meet code and the in built fuel tank had a problem. These boats were supplied about two years ago and no doubt you/Jason have put things right by now.

As for seats made of foam blocks... I'm not sure which boat you mean, but the ones I saw had Shakespeare's own seat units and "A" frame with upholstery by Mastertrim.......

Jono Garton · 19 January 2006, 07:35

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As for seats made of foam blocks... I'm not sure which boat you mean,

Jono

Hes correct on this one on the Yellow boat for a while there was foam block on the seats when we were testing different closed cell foams as certain manufactuers dont use close cell foam and seats fill with water.

I thinks ive got some pics somwhere of the different foams, still i have lots of pics on my PC, i would have to look through them all and dig them out.

Jono (The Kind of Welsh one)

Jono · 19 January 2006, 07:57

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Originally Posted by Jono Garton

Jono

Hes correct on this one on the Yellow boat for a while there was foam block on the seats when we were testing different closed cell foams as certain manufactuers dont use close cell foam and seats fill with water.

I thinks ive got some pics somwhere of the different foams, still i have lots of pics on my PC, i would have to look through them all and dig them out.

Jono (The Kind of Welsh one)

Ah... when Peter had the "leaching" problem? Sorry.. from Dom's description I had visions of you tazzing round sat on blocks of polystyrene...

Pete7 · 19 January 2006, 08:55

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Originally Posted by codprawn

No doubt asked before but there is so much to wade through.....

If reading though all the commercial coding stuff on Ribnet is daunting then I am not sure you are really committed to this, which you need to be. Rules are strick and quite rightly so. You will have to burn the midnight oil, delving into lots of regulations in the various publications which are available through HMSO.

Can I suggest you review your business plan and look at all the costs, not just the boat but also getting yourself trained up to the required standard and setting up as a business.

You should then be able to forecast when you will break even and see if its financially worth doing and subjecting your pride and joy to all the additional wear and tear.

Pete

Searider · 19 January 2006, 09:27

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Originally Posted by codprawn

No doubt asked before but there is so much to wade through.....

What sort of equipment is a RIB supposed to have built in for coding?

What I mean is stuff like twin batteries - bilge pumps etc rather than loose equipment like liferafts.

Codders - there's a link to the code on this page of my website:

http://www.saundersmorganharris.com/da/18577

Jono Garton · 19 January 2006, 10:48

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Originally Posted by Pete7

Can I suggest you review your business plan and look at all the costs,

Business Plan, you mean like ill think ill get my boat coded to get cheap fuel