RYA subs

maxg · 13 May 2013, 13:41

My subs are due.....

I need the International certificate (boating in Spanish waters) it runs out in 2017. Are there any other reasons to pay the RYA? or do I save the money.

Tim M · 13 May 2013, 16:04

This was discussed a few months ago. In practical terms, you don't really need it - all your tickets remain valid even with no membership. Some argue it's nice to support the RYA etc. I personally haven't bothered this year.

Pikey Dave · 13 May 2013, 16:17

An ICC is about 40 quid without RYA membership, free with. Bearing in mind the membership is about 50 quid a year & the ICC lasts for 5 years, ....you do the maths. That said, I'm happy to pay my RYA subs as I am the RNLI offshore subs, I look on it as a sort of insurance/warm snugly feeling inside

Tim M · 13 May 2013, 16:22

Not sure those figures are correct. I'm pretty sure it's cheaper to join and get a free ICC than to pay for one on it's own.

SPR · 13 May 2013, 16:23

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Originally Posted by Pikey Dave

...That said, I'm happy to pay my RYA subs as I am the RNLI offshore subs, I look on it as a sort of insurance/warm snugly feeling inside

+1 for me

Pikey Dave · 13 May 2013, 17:20

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Originally Posted by Tim M

Not sure those figures are correct. I'm pretty sure it's cheaper to join and get a free ICC than to pay for one on it's own.

Not if you keep your subs up for the 5 years between ICC renewals it ain't. Of course the more cynical amongst us would only renew our RYA subs in the ICC renewal year

An RYA membership renewal is £40 if paid by D/debit, an ICC is £40.

Razorbill RIBs · 13 May 2013, 17:31

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Originally Posted by Tim M

I personally haven't bothered this year.

Ditto.... Shared my views re the PPR course on another thread, Had a devil of a time when we used them for coding (now with YDSA, much easier to deal with so far).....

I'm possibly just having a little hissy-fit, and its far too boring to cite all the specific gripes, but through the various ways i've had to have contact with them in recent years, i am left with an overwhelming sense of "they need to get their s**t together!"

Rogue Wave · 13 May 2013, 18:19

its not just me then perhaps they have a special cluster dept for dealing with Working Welsh Skippers.

PD I don't ubderstand why you get a warm snuggly feeling from being a member of the RYA I think Ribnet does more for us than the RYA. Personally I get a warm snugggly feeling from a litre of Hennessy VSOP which strangely enough is about the same price.

I like to instruct so I stay as a member. Instructors are encouraged to recruit new members, by way of a backhander, I find in all honesty I can't encourage people to join. I find myself very angry with me over this as every 8 I sign up would earn me a bottle of the aforementioned Amber Gloryjuice

Razorbill. You of all people know better than to get me started about PPR. . I can't remember was it Jilly, Johnny or Singeon's 1st aid ticket that was out of date and therefore meant he couldn't do the thrill rides

I guess my instructing days will soon be over

Pikey Dave · 13 May 2013, 19:25

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Originally Posted by Rogue Wave

its not just me then perhaps they have a special cluster dept for dealing with Working Welsh Skippers.

PD I don't ubderstand why you get a warm snuggly feeling from being a member of the RYA I think Ribnet does more for us than the RYA. Personally I get a warm snugggly feeling from a litre of Hennessy VSOP which strangely enough is about the same price.

I like to instruct so I stay as a member. Instructors are encouraged to recruit new members, by way of a backhander, I find in all honesty I can't encourage people to join. I find myself very angry with me over this as every 8 I sign up would earn me a bottle of the aforementioned Amber Gloryjuice

Razorbill. You of all people know better than to get me started about PPR. . I can't remember was it Jilly, Johnny or Singeon's 1st aid ticket that was out of date and therefore meant he couldn't do the thrill rides

I guess my instructing days will soon be over

Ooooh! somebody's tired

The RYA might not be perfect but it's all we've got to protect ourselves, & our freedoms from the legislators & other self interested parties.
As far as the RNLI goes, that speaks for itself

Rogue Wave · 13 May 2013, 19:54

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Originally Posted by Pikey Dave

Ooooh! somebody's tired

The RYA might not be perfect but it's all we've got to protect ourselves, & our freedoms from the legislators & other self interested parties.
As far as the RNLI goes, that speaks for itself

Not tired at all! Out of interest what kinda protection have you got from the RYA as a Ribster. Id like to point out I'm not arguing with you

kerny · 13 May 2013, 19:57

Ribochet · 13 May 2013, 20:17

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Originally Posted by Rogue Wave

I like to instruct so I stay as a member.

Just for general information - you do not need to be a member of the RYA to instruct RYA courses.

Rogue Wave · 13 May 2013, 20:26

Nice one I'll just join every 5 yrears when my endorsements need renewing

Was it Groucho Marks who said ' I wouln't want to join a club that would have me as a member'

cheers

PeterM · 13 May 2013, 20:31

Be interesting to know what the overall funding of the rya is compared to say the rnli?

Google must have the answer but I'm only using my phone so can't take the frustration of trying to find out.

Pikey Dave · 13 May 2013, 20:39

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Originally Posted by Rogue Wave

Not tired at all! Out of interest what kinda protection have you got from the RYA as a Ribster. Id like to point out I'm not arguing with you

No worries, I'm sure we can have a reasoned discussion without resorting to handbags

As a Ribster, I haven't had any specific help per se. I sought advice from the cruising section early on in my forays into France, having been stopped several times by the French authorities. The RYA advised me of my rights & obligations as a British registered vessel etc. Having seen what the continentals have to comply with wrg to registration, licensing, where they can/can't go (most of our RIBs would only be allowed 5 miles offshore in France

) I feel that the RYA is the only organisation that stands between us & the Government. Especially if the Government thought they could make a quick buck out of us. Considering the current discussions regarding Kill-cords & compulsory registration etc, we need a voice & the RYA is all we've got, as imperfect as it is.

wiLlfish · 13 May 2013, 20:52

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Originally Posted by Pikey Dave

I'm sure we can have a reasoned discussion without resorting to handbags

wan ov yew wud bee braykin rool 2

Pikey Dave · 13 May 2013, 21:10

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wan ov yew wud bee braykin rool 2

We would've been well matched

Rogue Wave · 13 May 2013, 22:18

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Originally Posted by wiLlfish

wan ov yew wud bee braykin rool 2

i did not fink of that.

PD when you put it like that it sounds like a bargain. I'm feeling rather foolish for wasting my next 4 years membership dues

Pikey Dave · 14 May 2013, 06:28

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Originally Posted by Rogue Wave

i did not fink of that.

PD when you put it like that it sounds like a bargain. I'm feeling rather foolish for wasting my next 4 years membership dues

Go easy on that stuff, I got very very pissed on Remy Martin about 25 years ago, took me a couple of days to sober up, I've not touched brandy since

. Single malt! that's another matter

tim griffin · 14 May 2013, 06:40

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Originally Posted by Ribochet

Just for general information - you do not need to be a member of the RYA to instruct RYA courses.

True but then you need to pay a Instructor fee to them every year so may just as well join.
Tim