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Old 23 May 2017, 16:04   #1
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Advice needed please from dog owners.

Hopefully the conditions are looking great this weekend. So considering going out for a gentle run for the first time with our young pup. Just inshore to begin with before he can find his sea legs.

I'm sourcing a doggy life jacket but any other relevant tips would be useful.

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I think a lot depends on the dog, our black lab has been in the boat since she was about 6 months. We initially bought a doggy life jacket but she didn't get along with it.
She loves the water but doesn't like to jump in, she prefers to walk in gradually which is good as she won't jump off the boat.If we're staying away in the hard boat on a mooring she has to go in the dinghy for walks and she's happy to jump in the little rib tender then jump out onto the beach but only once she can see its shallow.
Of we're out in the rib she gets herself in front of the console and sits with paws on the bow tubes watching where she's going like a figurehead. we couldn't ask for a better dog for boating as she loves to swim and run on the beach & she never gets seasick either
Only problem is the hairs they get everywhere
If we're out and it's rough she will crawl behind my legs at the helm and just lie down
We never really needed to train her to do anything boating specific she just gets on with it
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Old 24 May 2017, 00:20   #3
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Thanks Ken, I guess if your dog takes to the water then you're half way there. We've yet to discover this but I'm looking to start him at an early age to overcome any anxiety. Fortunately our pup won't be shedding so we shouldn't have that kind of cleanup trouble you have onboard. I'd imagine the life jacket for us will be useful at his age/size as we'll be able to use the pickup handle when transporting him on/off the rib.

Does your lab travel well anyway, say in the car? By the sounds of it now you don't need to tie her down in the hard boat/dingy but did you to begin with? I'm wondering if this is safe to do so, though probably much safer than a semi-frantic pet running around the deck and on the tubes.

Hopefully with a gradual introduction and a lot of treats I can get him to be one of the crew.
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I think a lot depends on the dog, our black lab has been in the boat since she was about 6 months. We initially bought a doggy life jacket but she didn't get along with it.
She loves the water but doesn't like to jump in, she prefers to walk in gradually which is good as she won't jump off the boat.If we're staying away in the hard boat on a mooring she has to go in the dinghy for walks and she's happy to jump in the little rib tender then jump out onto the beach but only once she can see its shallow.
Of we're out in the rib she gets herself in front of the console and sits with paws on the bow tubes watching where she's going like a figurehead. we couldn't ask for a better dog for boating as she loves to swim and run on the beach & she never gets seasick either
Only problem is the hairs they get everywhere
If we're out and it's rough she will crawl behind my legs at the helm and just lie down
We never really needed to train her to do anything boating specific she just gets on with it


Our black lab was exactly the same as that, even down to the hair. We lost him last year at 13yrs old & I'm still finding dog hair in the bilge pump, breaks my heart.
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Thanks Ken, I guess if your dog takes to the water then you're half way there. We've yet to discover this but I'm looking to start him at an early age to overcome any anxiety. Fortunately our pup won't be shedding so we shouldn't have that kind of cleanup trouble you have onboard. I'd imagine the life jacket for us will be useful at his age/size as we'll be able to use the pickup handle when transporting him on/off the rib.

Does your lab travel well anyway, say in the car? By the sounds of it now you don't need to tie her down in the hard boat/dingy but did you to begin with? I'm wondering if this is safe to do so, though probably much safer than a semi-frantic pet running around the deck and on the tubes.

Hopefully with a gradual introduction and a lot of treats I can get him to be one of the crew.
I ours has been good in the car from day one so no travel problems
Maybe getting used to the water first will help, ours was on the beach several times a week when she was young
She never got frantic she would just snuggle up for reassurance if not happy
There are times she gets excited and looks like she's going to jump over the bow but so far hasn't and her claws haven't marked the tubes
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Our black lab was exactly the same as that, even down to the hair. We lost him last year at 13yrs old & I'm still finding dog hair in the bilge pump, breaks my heart.
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Ours is 5 now and we're already dreading the day


It's nearly a year now & the missus is still struggling
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It's nearly a year now & the missus is still struggling
We had a baby last year and Ollie and roxy(dog) are joined at the hip he's going to be distraught when she goes as likely he'll be around 5-7 wherever you find him she's usually not far away
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My dog loves the water and will swim 800m across our local lake. Kayaking and canoes seem to be her ultimate in fun but a trip out in the boat is tough going on her. The fact it can be hard for dogs to get there balance when the boat is moving at speed even in calm water has her claws trying to grip into anything she can ( normally my legs ).

Smaller dogs seem to cope better with balance and speed, my advice is to just go very slow at first.
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Ours is 13 now and just doesn't enjoy the unstable platform. Even when younger, he used to curl up on his bed at the back and just go to sleep! Hard deck, especially when wet isn't the best for a dog, get some matting down so they can grip.
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Thanks guys all for your comments. Shame to learn about your black lab Dave but I'm sure you and your wife had 13 enjoyable years with him. I'm hoping we will, at least once we get past the teething stage! Your photo tells it all, he was having fun!!

We're hoping to get our pup used to beaches and the water but being the time of year and having limited access during summer months we might literally jump straight into the rib so it will be a whole new experience for the little fella. I'm going to try a couple of dry runs though before the weekend so that he can just sit in the rib on the trailer without the water, that way he can begin getting accustomed.

Good point Ken about claw marks on the tubes. I was a little concerned about this so will need to monitor the condition. For sure I'm going to take it slow at first, hence staying inshore, but that's a useful tip Paul about matting on the deck. Admittedly, if I were him, I wouldn't fancy curling up on the deck in the wash. I saw recently on here there was some black matting available so might look back for this.

I guess tying him to the kill switch isn't recommended, at least not until he's completed PB2!?!?
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Personally I don't think a RIB is any place for our four legged friends...they have no comprehension of how to cope with an unstable and pitching Boat even in mild conditions...in the rough it is tantamount to animal cruelty...
Sea States can and do change very quickly
What may start out as a Jolly Jape can soon become a very fraught frightening and dangerous place for a dog!

Even For Human crew with purpose made Seats-Ergo's Foot and Hand Holds ect...who CAN predict and brace against Waves and impacts,rolling pitching,other vessels Wakes ect ...injuries are FAR from Rare!

A Dog with scateing claws and Pads has little or no grip in a RIB (especially on a wet Deck)..and NO choice but to go where it's put by its owner ...and endure!...
He/she can soon incur serious injuries,or at the very least suffer premature wear and tear to joints/ligaments ect..and when things get "Busy" is just another problem for the Helm and Crew to worry about,which in the worst circumstances could even compromise thier safety.
They are just not designed for small water craft IMO...
If you think more of you're Dog than what suits you...leave him at Home... or on dry land with someone else.
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Plenty of yachty types sail with dogs. Not as wet, but can still be rough (they are going cross oceans in some cases) and heel will be much worse.

In the *right boat* with the *right dog* and the *right conditions* it may not be all doom and gloom. But we all know of people who desperately hoped their kids or partner would love it... ...I suspect a dog is the same. Some will love it, others hate it.

But Maximus is right - you will need to think how it can be "seated" without sustaining injury and you also need to think about how you can protect it from the elements etc.

Doggie life jacket?

Don't forget the toileting issues...

Will having the dog on board make you a better more cautious driver... much like having a child on board.

If your idea of fun is to go out and wave jump with some jet ski buddies while following a fast cat out of a ferry port... ...doggie may not like it...
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The recommendation by some trainers is that you need to get all the 'novel' experiences out of the way by 16 weeks if possible so they don't get freaked by it. Outboard noise is definitely in this category.

Mine came everywhere with me doing everything I do as soon as he was allowed out of the garden.
He's never been scared of anything past the first 'what on earth's that' reaction.
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My german shepherds go insane when they see the trailer getting connected to the boat. They absolutely love it, but I'm always at an inland lake and don't speed across the water. Start them young, dont force them and they'll enjoy spending time with you on the water,
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Max Surfing Dog Many moons ago, my bosses Dog, had him trained NOT to get on a boat until he was wearing his life jacket, would sit on the pontoon waiting to have his jacket put on he was a natural in the water and never happier than in a boat or board
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