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Old 29 March 2007, 20:22   #21
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Sorted in less than 10 mins, lightbulb £10 plus vat, gave the chap £20 told him to keep the change so £20, 10 mins worth of work, JOB DONE!!! Thank you Land Rover Assistance just screwed your own dealer out of £120!!!

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Sorted in less than 10 mins, lightbulb £10 plus vat, gave the chap £20 told him to keep the change so £20, 10 mins worth of work, JOB DONE!!! Thank you Land Rover Assistance just screwed your own dealer out of £120!!!

well done! Did he have a magic trick then - or take the bumper etc off?
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well done! Did he have a magic trick then - or take the bumper etc off?
He undid the top screws, thumped the side of the light by the wing, gently pulled the light cluster forward, slid his hand in, disconnected the plug popped the cover off, replaced the bulb, put cover and cable back on, clipped light cluster back in, put screws in, sorted. Ten mins max....... worth the £20 all day long.
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No, just stopped the dealer screwing you out of £120!

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I wonder how many people have said 'oh, and could you just change the bulb while it's there for the service.' not realsing they'd just added £120 to the bill!
. . "Well, sir, 2 hours IS the standard time allowed for that job."

Possibly unlikely, but what happens if you don't know the little removal trick and both bulbs have gone on a dark and miserable night . . and you haven't got any roadside assistance? You would be truly peed off to then find out just how difficult it is to change them. Incredibly crap design - surely all that basic stuff should be instant access?

Nice one for you though Richard
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I'm not sure its done to create more money for the manufacturer from service/repair work - but rather just crap design - which is intended to be as quick to manufacture and assemble as possible and they ignore how easy it is to replace.
Actually its more likely that they designed everything else and then went "Oh sh*t, we've forgotten something", and then some little nobber graduate designer who thinks he's the dogs goolies because he's got more degrees than a thermometer came up with a cunning plan that would save the world without actually thinking it through properly.

Its like the guy who designed something with 2 threaded holes for a U bolt...
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thinks he's the dogs goolies because he's got more degrees than a thermometer

Its like the guy who designed something with 2 threaded holes for a U bolt...


I will have to remember that for future insulting...

Love the U bolt too...
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Those of us in the Colonies love to poke fun at Brit cars for this sort of reason. My Dad had a Jag years ago. It really wouldn't start whenever it rained, which we always found amusing considering where it came from!

On my GMC Yukon, there is one little lever that holds the entire light assembly in. You flip it open, and you have instant access to all of the bulbs in that cluster... headlight, turn signal, daytime lights... The fog lights down below are a little tougher and require a wrench and lying on your back, but it's still pretty easy....

Glad you got it all sorted out though!
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Those of us in the Colonies love to poke fun at Brit cars for this sort of reason. My Dad had a Jag years ago. It really wouldn't start whenever it rained, which we always found amusing considering where it came from!

On my GMC Yukon, there is one little lever that holds the entire light assembly in. You flip it open, and you have instant access to all of the bulbs in that cluster... headlight, turn signal, daytime lights... The fog lights down below are a little tougher and require a wrench and lying on your back, but it's still pretty easy....

Glad you got it all sorted out though!
It is NOT just British cars any more - all modern high tech cars are going this way - of course Yank cars hardly fit that bill - leaf springs are STILL considering cutting edge - like the engines though!!!
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It is NOT just British cars any more - all modern high tech cars are going this way - of course Yank cars hardly fit that bill - leaf springs are STILL considering cutting edge - like the engines though!!!
LOL... I hear you. I have never owned a GM car, but I am on my 3rd truck. Last one, I put 350,000 km on it and it was still going strong. My current one is at 230,000 km and I have yet to have a major problem (knocking on head...).

There was an infamous Chev van that required that the engine be dropped from it's mounts in order to access two of the spark plugs. That sort of thing is pretty common in their smaller cars I think. I suppose the designers overlook the odd thing like that!
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It is NOT just British cars any more - all modern high tech cars are going this way - of course Yank cars hardly fit that bill - leaf springs are STILL considering cutting edge - like the engines though!!!
Hey watch it Cod, I have leaf springs on my Freightliner badged Mercedes van, are you saying the damn thing is not state of the art? I think I'm gonna cry... Those damn Germans! Always behind the times technologically....
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Hey watch it Cod, I have leaf springs on my Freightliner badged Mercedes van, are you saying the damn thing is not state of the art? I think I'm gonna cry... Those damn Germans! Always behind the times technologically....
Leaf springs may be fine on Vans and carts - when they start putting them on so called sports cars you have to start worrying!!!
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There was an infamous Chev van that required that the engine be dropped from it's mounts in order to access two of the spark plugs. That sort of thing is pretty common in their smaller cars I think. I suppose the designers overlook the odd thing like that!

Try working on bikes...

FZR1000EXUP-you have to drop the whole engine and swivel it on it's mountings to get to any of the plugs-and the old TDM250's you had to remove the exhausts to change plugs....and that's a 2-stroke!
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