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Old 07 May 2006, 08:45   #41
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Cross big boulders without getting hung up for a start.

Also axle articulation is not in the same league - traction control tends to mask this problem a little BUT there is no substitute for keeping all 4 wheels on the ground.

For what it is the Disco 3 is amazing but it won't take the hammering a Defender will.
Have you ever cross axeled the two together???? Below are pics of my Td5 (solid axle) and a D3 (independent) What do you notice about the two??

Also whilst a new defender has TC and a mechanical diff lock the D3 has an electro/mechanical locking center diff and the option to have a rear locking diff fitted also. So unless we are talking about approach and departure angles, I see no reason in your statement why the Defender will be better than the D3.

I agree that the Defender is designed and built to be more rugged but do not underestimate the D3's abillity.

We would be more than happy to demonstrate this, if you would like to book a course with one of the many LR expeience center's located in this country.
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I do NOT underestimate the the D3's ability - I was very impressed but the mkII Discovery comes with front and rear anti roll bars for a start which limits articulation. Also the ACE system can again limit articulation.

From what I have seen and the photos you have just provided the Disco II and The D3 are about the same. Defenders ARE different.

And if you want to see REAL axle articulation have a look at the original Range Rover before they started messing about with it - awesome.

When my Defender is back on the road I will take you up on your kind offer - yes I am modding the Defender at the moment but NOT the suspension.

And what a STUPID place to put a spare wheel - imagine trying to get at that in the mud or on rocky ground.
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I do NOT underestimate the the D3's ability - I was very impressed but the mkII Discovery comes with front and rear anti roll bars for a start which limits articulation. Also the ACE system can again limit articulation.

From what I have seen and the photos you have just provided the Disco II and The D3 are about the same. Defenders ARE different.

And if you want to see REAL axle articulation have a look at the original Range Rover before they started messing about with it - awesome.

When my Defender is back on the road I will take you up on your kind offer - yes I am modding the Defender at the moment but NOT the suspension.

And what a STUPID place to put a spare wheel - imagine trying to get at that in the mud or on rocky ground.
Fair comment. But the ACE system on the D2 does not work at speeds of 10mph or less. I'll see if I can get a few pics of D3 and Defender on our experience course
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Porche 4x4

see attached file!!
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Old 13 May 2006, 16:20   #45
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Absolute class!!!

Talking of Bling mate of mine was at a 4x4 car auction the other day - 3 of the vehicles were stolen - all Mitsubishis - who stole them? Gippos - says it all really Land Rovers just aren't Bling enough for them. Maybe the Range Rover Sport would fit the bill though!!!
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Old 13 May 2006, 18:17   #46
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.....in a nutshell.
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i don't think the toyota would quite fit the gypos bling image then going by this advert!
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and for the record i'm not part of the anti 4x4 brigade!!
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apologies to those who have an X5 but I just couldn't resist...i'm sure you all understand!
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Along the same lines, not that funny though, was emailed to me...
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Old 13 May 2006, 18:59   #51
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Along the same lines, not that funny though, was emailed to me...

ok so thats Porshe, BMW X5, Freelander, Toyota...any one got any more? Ive got a few more but i think i've upset enough people for now!!
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ok so thats Porshe, BMW X5, Freelander, Toyota...any one got any more? Ive got a few more but i think i've upset enough people for now!!
This shouldn't upset anyone, unless we have a few Aston owners!
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and in a similar vein.....
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Thing is

Thing is the defender is the one that looks like what it's ment to be a hard working machine with prezance and a legend to back it up, much reminicant of a skinhead on steroids. The others just look like pretenders. City slickers wth hiking boots.
more use for the old duch on the school run rather than dunking boats in the briny.

Oh the csw over a standard sw what do you get its easy a biger bill.
but seriously its a radio caset with speakers molded into the dash board electric front windows carpet cloth seats and extra sound proofing.
not a lot realy and I wouldnt get this spec again for towing and launching the boat.

oh If you get the air con it takes up half the pasenger foot well.
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and in a similar vein.....
i must admit those willy extensions do look superb
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