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Old 12 July 2007, 12:35   #41
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Just a thought, how do they propose to retrospectively limit our currently built cars to 100mph? If the law was to be passed, I for one would just keep my current car or buy a concourse condition classic (Lancia Delta Integrale, RS2 etc) capable of well over 100 mph and chugging out far more pollutants than newer cars. As I'm sure many people would do the same, this would probably cancel out any perceived CO2 benefits of the new law.

The notion is full of holes I reckon and I doubt it'll pass (I can't imagine the Italians MEPs voting for it!)
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another genius.

If your not going too quickly, your making too much noise. Tosser.

http://www.north-wales.police.uk/en/...?UID=1&CID=227
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Brunstrom is slowly digging himself a big hole. His last gaffe was using photos of a decapitated motorcyclist's head in a press conference without permission. There's a petition on the Downing Street website to remove him.
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Don't start me off on this one - oh dear you have!!!

I used to do a lot of climbing in the area he mentions - the only bikes that cause offence are the 2 strokes. in fact they were often drowned out - by the sound of the bloody Police helicopter!!!
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Don't start me off on this one - oh dear you have!!!

I used to do a lot of climbing in the area he mentions - the only bikes that cause offence are the 2 strokes. in fact they were often drowned out - by the sound of the bloody Police helicopter!!!
Yeah... lots of two stroke bikes using those roads...
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More pointless legislation from a dictatorial state, come 2015 Britain will be like living in one big open prison that has more oppressive and ridiculous laws than there are stars in the sky! Id cards, human micro chipping, cameras and micro chips here there and every where! and all to prevent crime and fraud they tell us? well it doesn't fool me. In truth its the governments vision for the future to keep tabs on each and every one of us and to keep us all in order towing the line, while they build their world around us on their vision at the expense of our liberty! sheer madness.
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Yeah... lots of two stroke bikes using those roads...

Never heard a scrambler or scooter then???
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Never heard a scrambler or scooter then???



and the all-pervading and incessant high-pitched whine of the motorbikes revving up and down through the gears on the roads beneath. The other traffic was almost inaudible, but the bikes were most certainly not. Quite remarkably intrusive.
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and the all-pervading and incessant high-pitched whine of the motorbikes revving up and down through the gears on the roads beneath. The other traffic was almost inaudible, but the bikes were most certainly not. Quite remarkably intrusive.
I do NOT agree with the git!!!

Obviously Brunstrom was tarring ALL bikes with the same brush. Obviously all the sports bikes these days are 4 strokes but you do get the odd offroad bike - they are fortunately the exception though.

What I was trying to point out is that rather than ban ALL bikes - or bring in silly speed limits - why not just ban the 2 strokes - I am sure some of them must be way over the db limit anyway!!!
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I do NOT agree with the git!!!

Obviously Brunstrom was tarring ALL bikes with the same brush. Obviously all the sports bikes these days are 4 strokes but you do get the odd offroad bike - they are fortunately the exception though.

What I was trying to point out is that rather than ban ALL bikes - or bring in silly speed limits - why not just ban the 2 strokes - I am sure some of them must be way over the db limit anyway!!!
Well, I do agree with him as I live just off a main access road to Wales, and the Pillocks with loud (illegal) cans on that rev the tnuts off them as they scream through are feckin' irritating.
Why not Police that hard and confiscate/crush all those with loud race cans on...? Problem solved
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Shouldn't be that hard - just give them a db meter - they only cost about £60!!!
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"Obviously all the sports bikes these days are 4 strokes but you do get the odd offroad bike"

Not quite true and some of the best sports bikes definitely arent:

http://www.ducati.com/od/ducatiuk/en...tml?model=1786

"What I was trying to point out is that rather than ban ALL bikes - or bring in silly speed limits - why not just ban the 2 strokes - I am sure some of them must be way over the db limit anyway!!!"

Codders, you're finally succuming to the charms of blair and his pals with banning talk..as Jono says, just get rid of the cans.
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OK maybe I should have said stupid small high revving 2 strokes!!! I love the sound of my 2.7L V6 one..............

I remember years ago the Police DID clamp down on noisy bikes etc - obviously now there aren't enough Police on the roads - maybe they should add microphones to their cameras.............
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They do.
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They do.

I have to be honest I have been on top of the Beacons looking down on a road and a bike came along at high speed with an incredibly loud exhaust - the sheep scattered in both directions ahead of him like the parting of the Red Sea!!!
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Interesting but usual views on roads and bikes etc from both sides .

I would like to see the police stopping anyone seen driving badly or too slowly holding up traffic and send them on an advanced driving course , then watch accident figures drop .

If you ride a bike you will understand that its a bit like being the resposible owner of a fast rib .
there is a relatively small minority of sportsbikers out there who just wind throttles on fast bikes in the wrong places and piss everyone off . Fact is few of them can ride and drop like flies on the open road . These are the prats giving bikes a bad name and the ones having most of the accidents.

In the same way there is always the idiot on the jetski or old speedboat blasting around near the slip or in the harbour which gets all owners of fast looking boats tarred with the same brush by those who don't understand .

As for 2 stroke bikes apart from scooters they are all pretty much long gone even off road .
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<heads off to garage to fabricate turbo mounting flange for the GS1100G>

Now THATS a proper silencer...

And that's my reasoned argument on the subject.
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As for 2 stroke bikes apart from scooters they are all pretty much long gone even off road .
Apart from the 32,000 bikes Ducati sell every year
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Apart from the 32,000 bikes Ducati sell every year
Dukes are 2 cylinder not 2 stroke.
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