I want this one !!!!

Daniel Vanesse · 10 April 2005, 07:31

If only I could win the lottery...

More info from http://www.ocke.se/news/NEWS_IR_RIB/IR_RIB.html

dctucker · 10 April 2005, 13:01

Whenever I see a picture of a RIB where the tubes are not in the water while at rest, I have to ask, "What's the point??" Boats like this simply have some very expensive, permanent and oversided inflatable fenders, IMHO. I don't get it

No offense intended!

codprawn · 10 April 2005, 13:07

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Originally Posted by dctucker

Whenever I see a picture of a RIB where the tubes are not in the water while at rest, I have to ask, "What's the point??" Boats like this simply have some very expensive, permanent and oversided inflatable fenders, IMHO. I don't get it

No offense intended!

Couldn't agree more!!!

Daniel Vanesse · 10 April 2005, 18:13

IMHO the guy has not fully understood what a RIB is :-) :-)
And of course I was joking when I wrote that I wanted one like this. However I am convinced that there is a future for genuine RIBs with a cabin like that one.

MarkWildey · 10 April 2005, 19:45

Try this then http://www.ocke.se/news/NEWS_VC45R_trial/VC45.html

Mark

dctucker · 10 April 2005, 23:31

or try this:
http://www.protectorboats.com/index.html

Keith Hart · 11 April 2005, 05:54

Well if it was my RIB the tubes WOULD be in in the water!

Keith (way too many bacon rolls) Hart

Inner thoughts....don't be stupid, you can NEVER have too many bacon rolls...

Tims Osprey · 11 April 2005, 11:58

Infact in one respect the tubes being out of the water has it's advantages, If for some reason there was a failure or accident involveing the tubes then no worries there, on the other hand if you were to split the hull open and flood it the tubes are there to stop you going down to the sea bed so in some respects the best of both worlds i think, The only disadvantage is that it's not as stable at rest.

codprawn · 11 April 2005, 12:43

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Originally Posted by Tims Osprey

Infact in one respect the tubes being out of the water has it's advantages, If for some reason there was a failure or accident involveing the tubes then no worries there, on the other hand if you were to split the hull open and flood it the tubes are there to stop you going down to the sea bed so in some respects the best of both worlds i think, The only disadvantage is that it's not as stable at rest.

They will all still float without the tubes on anyway.(or should!!!)

Having the tubes right out of the water like that does have other problems - no shock absorbtion from big waves - no added stability in tight turns - not so much protection from stuffing etc.

dctucker · 11 April 2005, 12:44

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Originally Posted by Tims Osprey

Infact in one respect the tubes being out of the water has it's advantages, If for some reason there was a failure or accident involveing the tubes then no worries there, on the other hand if you were to split the hull open and flood it the tubes are there to stop you going down to the sea bed so in some respects the best of both worlds i think, The only disadvantage is that it's not as stable at rest.

That is one way to think about it. However, even the smallest RIB or SIB has 3+ air chambers, and a multiple chamber failure is exceedingly unlikely. A RIB or SIB is highly unlikely to sink due to any damage, particularly in comparison to a hard boat damaged in collision or gounding. Been there, done that, TWICE! One skipper put a J/24 sailboat on the rocks, breeched the hull and we had to be rescued by the local Harbormaster, in >5 knots

I've also rolled a J/24 180 degrees and sank it in <35 knots, an altogether different story

If you're seriously concerned about sinking a hard boat, there is a better way to protect it. There are inflatable bladders you can fit below decks, which are equipped to inflate upon submersion, much like an auto inflating life jacket. May or may not be more cost effective than adding tubes as above, but certainly better looking!

The added stability of having the tubes immersed at rest is probably the #1 benefit of a RIB, IMHO. But once you're planing, there's no real detrimental effect. For my use, being able to bump & snuggle up alongside a sailboat under sail with no damage is a close #2. Love those giant permanent fenders!

Tims Osprey · 11 April 2005, 13:30

Agreed and i know that sinking a Rib is highly unlikely, But my Rib sits on the water with the tubes a couple of inches off the water and although it does tend to rock a little at rest it's not in any way unstable and to me i quite like the extra bouyancy provided by the hull alone before the tubes even start to do there job if you know what i'm saying.

codprawn · 11 April 2005, 13:38

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Originally Posted by Tims Osprey

Agreed and i know that sinking a Rib is highly unlikely, But my Rib sits on the water with the tubes a couple of inches off the water and although it does tend to rock a little at rest it's not in any way unstable and to me i quite like the extra bouyancy provided by the hull alone before the tubes even start to do there job if you know what i'm saying.

Big difference between a couple of inches and a couple of feet!!! The reason your rib isn't unstable is because it doesn't have far to go before the tubes DO touch!!!

Tims Osprey · 11 April 2005, 14:31

I think with the overall size of that Rib in the photo that even if 10 rather large people were all stood on one side of the boat it still would not lean over that much so unless its a really small rib with a large space between the water and the tubes it makes little differance.

Tims Osprey · 11 April 2005, 14:51

I know that lots of people say that a hull on a rib will still stay afloat even with the tubes deflated, True with a tried and tested quality hull but i'm not convinced if that will always be the case with every make and design of hull? Even more so under load

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codprawn · 11 April 2005, 16:00

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Originally Posted by Tims Osprey

I know that lots of people say that a hull on a rib will still stay afloat even with the tubes deflated, True with a tried and tested quality hull but i'm not convinced if that will always be the case with every make and design of hull? Even more so under load

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If the RIB conforms to the new RCD laws etc then yes they MUST float with all tubes deflated and a full load of passengers.

I think!!!!!

Tims Osprey · 11 April 2005, 18:16

Nice to know that a boat still floats with tube failure,not that i havn't got confidence in my tubes i have every confidence in them infact.