Humber Destroyer / Bardsey Visit

[Jono Garton]

Just a few pics of a little trip yesterday.

1,2,3, 4 the two 5.5m Destroyers at Bardsey landing stage

5 the lighthouse, sorry about the sun

[Jono Garton]

and

1 & 2 the island

3 Colin old sheep transporter (& andy looking to corner a sheep)

4 the old ferry

5 Andys past girl freinds

[Jono Garton]

The rest are andys new 5.5m destroyer with 75hp 2 stroke

the others our 5.5m with 75hp four stroke, they are exactky the same speed and pick up.

[Jono Garton]

and the last few

[Biggles]

Interesting with regards the engines performance. If thats the case as you say are both engines the same CC. whats the difference between a 2 stroke 75 and 4 stroke 75 other than their combustion cycle. Is the torque kicking in at different spots etc.

[Jono Garton]

I Think the cc will be different but both 75hp, the 2 strokes running a 18pitch stainless and the four stroke a 17 pitch ally.

Jono

[ian parkes]

Nice pics , and a good trip .
It was lovely out there yesterday
ended up cruising 60 miles of the cornish coast .

Interesting on the motors being the same performance , I had a choice of a 2 or 4 stroke on the same boat buying and went for the 4 but often wonder if it would have been much faster with the 2 stroke .
What was the difference in the fuel consumption

[matt h]

nice set up !! looks good, shame my humber was the pits, it literally fell to pieces in a matter of a few weeks!! interesting to hear the engines give out the same, i had a Mariner 90 four stroke on mine, top speed 46 knots chine walk at 44 knots, nice hull tho

[Jono Garton]

Shame about your humber! With the next 3 were having delivered we have had about 20 humbers this year, with no problems.

Were selling the destroyers at £11995 with 75hp 2 strokes and £12995 with 75hp four strokes, all kitted up with a frames, braked trailers etc

Jono

[ian parkes]

Originally Posted by matt h

nice set up !! looks good, shame my humber was the pits, it literally fell to pieces in a matter of a few weeks!! interesting to hear the engines give out the same, i had a Mariner 90 four stroke on mine, top speed 46 knots chine walk at 44 knots, nice hull tho

Strange that I thought Humbers were known as top quality tough boats have been very impressed with all the ones I have seen and would have bought one of those destroyers had it been in my price range

[matt h]

the destroyers are superb!! my humber was probally a one off, as i picked it up,it wasnt finished, no appology or handover atall, when i got home, the rubbing strake was coming off, 3 days later the handle was peeling away, 3 weeks later, all the handles had come off, consol cracking, rubbing strake all over the boat coming away, rear near side tube leaking!! the list goes on and on!! no back up what so ever,, i had heard they employed cheap overseas labour,!! hmmm, i had to sell it very quickly,
i had a single consol with 2 fuel tanks underneath! extremley difficult to re fill the tank, with out taking them out!!

[ian parkes]

No back up ??

Surely there was a guarantee on a new boat , doesn't sound too good at all .

Overseas labour , looks like we have lots more of that to look forward to,

[Jono Garton]

Originally Posted by matt h

i had heard they employed cheap overseas labour,!!

You mean people from Lincolnshire ! I know exactly what you mean, they are only good for picking spuds.

I agree on the fuel tanks we only fit 92litre tanks in console.

Shame about your other probs, I'm sure Sue or Andy would be quick to put anything right.

What speed did your do? The 5.5 Destroyer with 75hp is pulling 43 mph which i find great for a 75hp.

Jono

[BogMonster]

Originally Posted by matt h

the destroyers are superb!! my humber was probally a one off, as i picked it up,it wasnt finished, no appology or handover atall, when i got home, the rubbing strake was coming off, 3 days later the handle was peeling away, 3 weeks later, all the handles had come off, consol cracking, rubbing strake all over the boat coming away, rear near side tube leaking!! the list goes on and on!! no back up what so ever,, i had heard they employed cheap overseas labour,!! hmmm, i had to sell it very quickly,
i had a single consol with 2 fuel tanks underneath! extremley difficult to re fill the tank, with out taking them out!!

No they aren't and no it wasn't it is cheap for a reason and mine is sh**e too. I got the "We have built 10,000 boats in the last 50 years" story last time round and right now I feel like going back to that email and replying with an "about time you learned to build them properly then huh?"

Great pics Jono, but if you have 2 Destroyers you must be a glutton for punishment!

[Jono Garton]

Have a look at http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...MEBI%3AIT&rd=1 humber, its my mates, its late 80's / early 90's and it is mint, the tubes are as good as most boates that are a year old, you wouldnt see many sea riders that are as good condition as this.

Like anything new you get the odd bad one.

Jono

[matt h]

i got that story too, weve been building boats for 4000 years too!!! ha ha , actually i said to sue,!! no your dad has!!! she said ,, "we've never ever had any problems"!! i said the fuel tank system and build quality is appalling!! she said "your the first unhappy customer weve had"
i picked my boat up and there were no straps to hold it down,, Sue said "no one has asked for them before" and "there is nothing wrong with that system" the glue to hold it together was a mixture of Butter and Margarine!!!

[ian parkes]

Jono
What exactly is an RYA diesel course , Diesel Maintenance and repair ?

[Jono Garton]

Hi

basic house keeping, fault finding, get me home without the lifeboat kind of stuff.

Jono

[ian parkes]

Good idea , had never heard of that through the RYA ,