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Old 28 January 2004, 14:23   #11
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I will rarely have more than 3 adults and 3 kids and if I did need to carry more it would only be in a river situation not open sea.

I tow a Bull 7000 which displaces 1180Kg + trailer etc and launch her sucessfully from a Merc e320cdi, which has loads of torque c470ft.lbs at 2000 rpm.
The fuel consumption drops from 36mpg to 22mpg averaging 55mph towing c1600kg for anyone that is interested. The car weighs c1660kg and its tow limit is 2200kg.
When on a slippery slip etc we use a rope between trailer and car or a cable if available like the one at Suffolk Yacht Harbour (Levington R.Orwell)
We don't rush it and everything goes OK. There is usually a friendly ribster in a wetsuit waiting to launch his own boat to lend a hand.
My least favourite launch site so far is Hamble Point with its akward tide.
Back to Ribs are Humbers OK there seem to be a few around?

How do I find Humber new list prices on the web, they don't have them on their website?

Is a black tubed rib easy to resell should I buy one?

I recall not being able to import a black inflatable into Gibraltar some years ago due to their use for smuggling across the straights to Tangiers

The Humber Destroyer 5 or 5.5 looks a strong safe boat. What is the best engine output for these two options?

Thanks in advance for any clues and for info already given.
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Old 28 January 2004, 17:41   #12
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How much money you've got really dictates what engine. In my opinion suzuki 4/strokes are the best outboard at them moment and id say on a 5-5.5m either the 90 or the 115hp version would be fine. Im having the 115 on my 575m but its the same engine as the 90 with a different chip that allows it to rev faster flat out so performance at everythign except flat out will be unchanged,

On a 5.5m you could probably have the suzuki 140 but its a lot more expensize than the 115 and it guzzles more fuel.

Opti's are ok, Mercury Mariner and Yamaha fourstrokes are ok but not as good as the suzuki's.

U'll be fine with whatever engine you chose as long as its not an old tech 2-stroke because they have very little second hand value at the moment.

Bear in mind my Valiant 490 did 40mph with a 60hp 2 stroke. But on a heavier boat such as i humber you would want a bigger engine.
Look for something that will seat 6 because on long trips you really have to have everyone seated.
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Old 28 January 2004, 17:51   #13
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Thanks for info

Any clues as to new Humber prices and where to find them?
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Old 28 January 2004, 17:59   #14
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Re: Thanks for info

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Any clues as to new Humber prices and where to find them?
It depends on your spec. Phone Humber on 01482 226100, Fax on: 01482 215884 or email: sales@humberboats.demon.co.uk.

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U'll be fine with whatever engine you chose as long as its not an old tech 2-stroke because they have very little second hand value at the moment.


Won't that make them a very good buy just now?
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Old 28 January 2004, 18:42   #15
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U'll be fine with whatever engine you chose as long as its not an old tech 2-stroke because they have very little second hand value at the moment.
In a word, bollix! how many old 2 stokes have you owned and bought recently. Try and find a decent size 135 - 200 hp 2 stroke because they still comand high prices. My mariner 1988 V6 150 sold for 1400, not bad for a 15 year old engine that ran okay but needed a respray. If you want a big 2 stoke in mint condition then you will be paying top price and need to be quick with cash.

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What is this statement based on ? experience ? visits to london boat shows ? I will agree with you optis are okay and hopefully suzukis have improved from the days we called them Alka seltzer, cos they fizzed so much from different metals when immersed in salt water.

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Oooo... he rattled your cage a bit there Pete.
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Old 28 January 2004, 19:06   #17
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Engines bla bla bla

Oh what have I started now? You just luvvv it?

This engine that engine bla bla bla

How about this recent advert posted in Dec 03

Mercury 115HP new in April 2003 currently fitted to a Humber 5.3m rib. The engine has only been used three times as it has proved too big for the Humber. It comes with all its controls, rev counter and trim tilt gauage. There is also a new solas 21 pitch stainles steel prop and the original 19 pitch alloy prop which came with the engine. Can deliver the engine if required.
Price 4500

I bet you could get for 4000

If I had the right rib I could live with a 2 stroke like this.
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Opti's are ok, Mercury Mariner and Yamaha fourstrokes are ok but not as good as the suzuki's.

U'll be fine with whatever engine you chose as long as its not an old tech 2-stroke because they have very little second hand value at the moment.

Simmonds O have you ever owned and operated an Opti or for that matter a Suzuki 4 stroke. It seems a common trait on this thread for all the Suzuki owners to say how unbeatable the engines are before they've even taken delivery of their engines.Yes I know some of you have actually got them !

I don't think either of the engines you have suggested or for that matter an Opti are in Headhunters budget, but if they were then discounting the stunning performance from the Optimax engines is iffy advice.

Also Yamaha engines have an excellent reputation for quality and reliability and whilst I am prepared to believe that the Suzuki engines may well be amazing they at least need to be in use for a couple of years before anyone can testify to their reliability.

Re WJ comments I really do agree with him, Modern two strokes are a good alternative to 4 strokes economy wise but older two strokes are cheap and a lot easier to maintain. and you can buy a lot of petrol with a few grand

Having said my bit , it does seem from Headhunters projected use a four stroke would do him well
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Old 29 January 2004, 06:27   #19
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Back to discussion though...

Just based on observation, there's probably not a lot of manufacturers out there building a 5.5m hull capable of taking a 140hp engine. Delta comes to mind but they are a commercial grade design. My 5.8m hull is rated to 135hp.

It's easy to forget that boats can change considerably even though the advertised length only increases slightly. I know several boats which are 5.5m and are physically much smaller and lighter, and easier to manage than my own. They can also carry the same number of people (say 6) faster using a smaller engine.

You need to see the boat up close and personal. Better still (as was suggested already), take one out for a spin.

Interesting comment that there are a lot of mismatched boats and outboards out there on the second hand market. I consider my own boat "matched" to take a few people cruising for the day, but mismatched to take a lump of divers out. Still, I wouldn't say no to a bit more power. Not too sure about overpowering the boat without experience.
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Old 04 February 2004, 06:57   #20
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Boat found

I have found a suitable rib, just going through the paying for it etc. now.
I need a trailer for a 5.5m any ideas please.
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