Originally Posted by Paddy L
Have you a view on a Valiant 620, saw one recently that looks very neat, it has an 'N' in its name!? Thanks PaddyL
There may be some delay in getting a response from Willk...
...I think he was mostly referring to boats built in Ireland which contain an N in the name. Valiant is well enough known throughout the UK and beyond that you should be able to get a reasonable response from the rest of the forum.
I suspect when you distill any feedack you get it will come out to be something like this:
- Valiant are a big manufacturer making lots of boats so they must be doing something right. They operate a dealer system - there are pro's and con's to that - it probably matters less for 2nd hand.
- They are generally targeted towards the lower budget end of the market and so some people here will (unfairly?) compare them to much more expensive boats and tell you they are not as good.
- Generally fit out is OK but not outstanding. Some of it may be done by the end dealer in which case could be subject to variability. With second hand boats you always need to be aware the dodgy DIYer anyway. Even some of the best respected names in the industry put our "friday afternoon" boats - so what matters is how your boat is finished not how the others are.
- The tubes are made from Polyurethane not Hypalon (PU is not to be confused with PVC). >95% of people on here will tell you Hypalon is the way to go and is much better; most of them have no real experience of PU. The marketing material for PU says it is better in many ways. The handbuilt tube makers prefer hypalon. The machine built tube makers prefer PU (because in can be welded rather than glued). If the tubes are in great condition hold air well etc then it certainly wouldn't put me off. If the tubes are getting tired or have several diy patches etc then I would be budgeting for new tubes.
- When you buy a valiant usually you get a standard set up / format of seating etc. This might be more restrictive than a "typical ribnetter" would want, but it does mean it has probably been well considered and reasonably good for the intended purpose.
- Quite a lot of their boats have "bench" type seating rather than jockies. This is much less popular on ribnet. Depending on your use it may suit you. Some valiants have a standing/leaning bolster type arrangement which some users claim is even better than typical jockey seats.