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Old 24 July 2006, 19:32   #1
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Zodiac sponsons

Iv'e got a 2002 Zodiac Medline 2. The top surface of the sponsons has over the last few months become very sticky. So much so that any footprints etc have become permanent (visted the Isle of Man and a Manx cat happened to walk down the port sponson you've guessed it I now have cat prints all over. Any suggestions or ideas of a cure as I shudder to think what will happen when Autumn arrives.
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Iv'e got a 2002 Zodiac Medline 2. The top surface of the sponsons has over the last few months become very sticky. So much so that any footprints etc have become permanent (visted the Isle of Man and a Manx cat happened to walk down the port sponson you've guessed it I now have cat prints all over. Any suggestions or ideas of a cure as I shudder to think what will happen when Autumn arrives.
It sounds like they have begun to polymerize, basically break down under UV light. This can be slowed down and if its not to bad but its not a good sign. My local sailing club ribs are doing this becuase they leave them uncovered the whole time and they have been exposed to the sun for years.
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What about trying this stuff:

http://pristinemarine.co.uk/product....chFor=&PT_ID=7
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It sounds like they have begun to polymerize, basically break down under UV light. This can be slowed down and if its not to bad but its not a good sign. My local sailing club ribs are doing this becuase they leave them uncovered the whole time and they have been exposed to the sun for years.
Thanks for the quick reply, the Medline has been covered up for most of the time do you think the only out come will be to retube.
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Thanks Andy Iv'e kept the link and will give it a try as the Zodiac restorer is of no use at all.
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Thanks for the quick reply, the Medline has been covered up for most of the time do you think the only out come will be to retube.
Eventually yes, but with out seeing it is hard to say. A proffesional deep clean and then an over dose of tube conditining products and protectors may well give you lots more time. hard to say with out seeing it.

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Really helpfull advice, thanks very much Stephen Iv'e just looked through the Zodiac papers and it seems that the rib still has a few months warranty left out of the 5 years so Iv'e sent an email up to Avon/Zodiac.
They have asked if I will email a few photo's as I get any response I will post on this thread with the results.
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Really helpfull advice, thanks very much Stephen Iv'e just looked through the Zodiac papers and it seems that the rib still has a few months warranty left out of the 5 years so Iv'e sent an email up to Avon/Zodiac.
They have asked if I will email a few photo's as I get any response I will post on this thread with the results.
I would be very interested to here what they say and or do.
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My Med II tubes......

......certainly do not look as good compared to the tubes on my previous Med I which, was two years older. In fact, I saw the old girl recently and her tubes, looked better than mine.

I use REVIVAL by Zodiac, it seems to do the job but since they changed it from a liquid to a compound, it's just not as good.

By the way, if you ever wish to sell your Med II, let me know, I have a buyer lined up already. He is desparate for mine but I ain't sellin'.
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Old 28 July 2006, 22:06   #10
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certainly do not look as good compared to the tubes on my previous Med I which, was two years older. In fact, I saw the old girl recently and her tubes, looked better than mine.
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yep I know what you mean its just an inconvenience I just hope it sorts its self out. I'm going to give it a real good scrub this next week just to get rid of the footprints if nothing else. What year is your Medline 2 ??
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I would be very interested to here what they say and or do.
Zodiac have inspected the Medline II sponsons. They tell me that the problem is polymerisation and have agreed to completely re-tube my boat. They made this decision within four working days of inspection/paperwork being forwarded to them. In my opinion Zodiac and their representatives, Jeff and Roger, have treated me with courtesy and respect.

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Well the new tubes have arrived in North Wales

Hoping to have them fitted on the 17th march

I belive they are made from Zodiacs new material {sharc}

Anybody got any feedback on this product.
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Just what I've dug up from google. It is a zodiac brand name and appears to be a polyurethane based fabric rather than PVC. Here's zodiac's info about it;

http://www.marinesafe.com.au/inflata...ex_fabric.html
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Urethane is supposed to be much more stable than PVC. Good to know they're changing. (Tuber; thanks for the link - I'd seen the name, and figured it was still PVC with a different nomenclature.)

If I ever need to get my RIB retubed, it'll probably be with PU tubes from Wing (assuming I can afford it.)

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If I ever need to get my RIB retubed, it'll probably be with PU tubes from Wing (assuming I can afford it.)

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I'd be careful about thate. From the reading I've done, the big advantage in abrasion & puncture resistance that PU has over hypalon is seen when comparing the fabrics when new. Aparently after about 5 years of use, they are fairly similar & beyond that, a high quality hypalon will be more durable and won't deteriorate as rapidly as PU. Keep in mind that there are some low quality hypalon fabrics out there as well.

Perhaps Paul Tilley can give his insights on this?
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Keep in mind that there are some low quality hypalon fabrics out there as well.
You're so right. Especially some orange stuff
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I'd be careful about thate. From the reading I've done, the big advantage in abrasion & puncture resistance that PU has over hypalon is seen when comparing the fabrics when new. Aparently after about 5 years of use, they are fairly similar & beyond that, a high quality hypalon will be more durable and won't deteriorate as rapidly as PU.
Don't know. The Navy has been buying from Wing for quite a while, though, and continue to do so. Surely that must count for some vote of confidence?

But, as I stated, that was an "if I ever need to retube". Not there yet (and likely won't be for many years.)

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Prairia Tuber.

Thanks for the link.The write up sounds excellent.

I'm well chuffed with the outcome of my warranty with Zodiac.
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Don't know. The Navy has been buying from Wing for quite a while, though, and continue to do so. Surely that must count for some vote of confidence?

But, as I stated, that was an "if I ever need to retube". Not there yet (and likely won't be for many years.)

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I think for the navy, the higher abrasion & puncture resistance of PU, is the greater priority even if the PU tubes might need replacing earlier than hypalon tubes. I believe those Wing PU tubes are for the big USN RIBs. They still do spec 1880 dtx hypalon for their Zodiac FC-470s.
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Prairia Tuber.

Thanks for the link.The write up sounds excellent.

I'm well chuffed with the outcome of my warranty with Zodiac.
No problem. Those PU tubes should hold up to some pretty intensive use .
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