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Old 13 March 2008, 15:05   #21
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Orca hypalon is French is it not? We're all dooooooomed!
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Old 13 March 2008, 17:20   #22
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You wouldn't believe it but it cost my friend less to have his Tornado shipped back to the UK to have it retubed by Henshaw than to have it retubed at the Orca factory in France. Something wrong there me thinks.
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Old 13 March 2008, 19:10   #23
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mmm... not what I remember taking away from SL's numerous posts on his tubes. I am sure in his opinion it was poor design/construction of the tubes (and an unreinforced joint in a high wear/fatigue position) rather than the material itself. Or at least that was the message I got.

But if all French material is crap, then so in effect are virtually all ribs.
I can't remember ever letting the facts get in the way of a good story.

I still think that something unusual happened to Stephen's tubes in a life before he owned his boat. There are loads of RIBnetters with Humbers. AFAIK, no one else has had similar problems. I'm not convinced it's a design fault. Certainly there's no indication of failure on mine, and it's almost the same age as Stephen's.

Of course, if there was a problem during manufacture of the material, do you really think the French would throw the batch away when there was an Englishman to flog it to? Remember the stuff they used to sell us and call wine? Wasn't until the Chileans reminded us what real Cabernet Sauvignon should taste like that they sent us some half decent stuff.

Bruce is right about the Auld Enemy. That's why there are so many Yorkshire people here on the west coast, we empathise. The French never forget their Old Enemy either.

Mind you, there's a good few Mam'selles I could ravish - or perhaps just dream about ravishing these days. See, I'm not completely anti French.

Are XS RIB's made in France?
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Old 13 March 2008, 19:25   #24
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I still think that something unusual happened to Stephen's tubes in a life before he owned his boat. There are loads of RIBnetters with Humbers. AFAIK, no one else has had similar problems. I'm not convinced it's a design fault. Certainly there's no indication of failure on mine, and it's almost the same age as Stephen's.
absolutely. And it would be unfair to suggest that there is a fundamental flaw in the design since clearly there are a lot of humbers (and probably other boats) around with tubes/joints of that style - that have no problem. Although there may be better joint designs which would be less prone to failure in this way.
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Of course, if there was a problem during manufacture of the material, do you really think the French would throw the batch away when there was an Englishman to flog it to?
If they knew about it yes. Pennel warrant their material for 5 years. They are probably the world leaders at making tube fabric.
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Remember the stuff they used to sell us and call wine? Wasn't until the Chileans reminded us what real Cabernet Sauvignon should taste like that they sent us some half decent stuff.
you were just buying the wrong stuff - you can't blame the french if the stupid british consumer use price as their main criteria for buying wine.
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no china I believe
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Remember the stuff they used to sell us and call wine? Wasn't until the Chileans reminded us what real Cabernet Sauvignon should taste like that they sent us some half decent stuff.
Well, quarter decent. The only good wine i've drunk in England is the stuff i've brought over myself
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no china I believe
XS are not Tornado. Tornados are now made in China but I had the impression that XS where made at Barnets. I'll ask my friend whose just bought one.
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no china I believe
I Know that Tornado moved to China. As fas as i know that was a factor in them being droped by BM.

Dont belive XS are from China unless its one of the better Sweat shops.

Wish the truth would come out about the manufacturer. I read somewhere that they had planned to announce Details in 2005 .....

Still waiting ....
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XS are not Tornado. Tornados are now made in China but I had the impression that XS where made at Barnets. I'll ask my friend whose just bought one.
Ah - I stand corrected, I thought XS was just a new name for tornado.
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Ah - I stand corrected, I thought XS was just a new name for tornado.
Nope on close inspection there are differences in the hull.
In terms of feel on the water i find mine to be similar to Tornado. Although im comparing it to the 6.5m at Cumbrae wich has twin engines and does feel a little heavier at the stern.
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