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Old 23 October 2011, 01:28   #11
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Whats wrong with a 40 on a SR4

I have a 40 Yam on my training SR4 and its a veritible flying machine and you need a lot of bottle to WOT it one up.
I had a 60hp on mine and was happy to run that at WOT throttle, it did shift mind, I replaced the poorly 60 with a Yam 55 and that went well too.
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Old 23 October 2011, 01:33   #12
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Still looking for my first boat and, if you'll oblige, have another couple of questions to ask,

This Avon has been on ebay 3 or 4 times now and doesn't seem to get much over 1000 which is less than reserve. It seems fairly good value to me, is there any reason why it's not ?

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I'd be interested to know why the 2 serial numbers shown on the boat are different.
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Old 23 October 2011, 01:40   #13
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I'd be interested to know why the 2 serial numbers shown on the boat are different.
One of them looks like I've done it after a night out on the lash and tried to hold the stamps between my toes whilst my terrier wielded a hammer!
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Old 23 October 2011, 03:05   #14
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Ribochet,

There is nothing wrong with a 40 on a SR4. The perceived wisdom on Ribnet is that the perfect partner is a 2 stroke 50HP with Power Trim. However there are plenty of folks who have used a 40 quite happily. Obviously if you are trying to move a lot of fat divers, or obsessed with going as fast as possible a 50 might be better. However even a 30 will still give reasonable performance and a lot of fun when lightly loaded, and some sailing club boats use 25HP's when they want to keep fuel bills and over enthusiastic drivers under control but still get on the plane easily.

Quite simply the reserve is too high. Whats more if the ebayer took the reserve off he'd probably see ebay craziness pump up the price to more than its worth anyway! Reserves say to the buyer "I know what this is worth, you won't get a bargain" but buyers only go on ebay because they "think" they will get a bargain. As always a bit of TLC and some carefully shot pictures could also add a few hundred to the price!
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Old 23 October 2011, 05:17   #15
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I never understand why the reserve is a secret, it's not in regular auctions, I asked a guy once what the reserve was and he refused to tell me.

Nothing wrong with a 40 on an SR4 unless you want to ski behind it then it could be a struggle - I speak from my wealth of a couple of months experience, but was out with a couple of them last week, one with a 40 and the other a 50, the 50 was clearly quicker but the 40 still ran rings round me.
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I never understand why the reserve is a secret, it's not in regular auctions, I asked a guy once what the reserve was and he refused to tell me.

Nothing wrong with a 40 on an SR4 unless you want to ski behind it then it could be a struggle - I speak from my wealth of a couple of months experience, but was out with a couple of them last week, one with a 40 and the other a 50, the 50 was clearly quicker but the 40 still ran rings round me.
Simple.

The way the eBy system works is the bid will automatically jump to the reserve once it's been met regardless of the current bid.

Therefore if a buyer has 5000 for a boat and asks the reserve to be told it's 4,500 that's what he will bid. If he does not know the reserve he will bid his 5,000, the reserve will be met at 4,500 and if anybody else decides to bid the price will increase over and above the reserve. If they wanted you to know the reserve they would use a buy-it-now option. If they do not have a value for it they would use no reserve auction

I never understand why a buyer wants to know the reserve. Just bid what you value it at and if it's enough you will know on the spot. If not bid again or keep looking.

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My take on Reserves, is that they generally mean one of two things from the sellers perspective.

1. The item is worth less than the Reserve, they know it and they hope you don't.

2. The item has a very limited market and if no-one is shopping, it could sell for rubbish money - the Reserve keeps scavengers away.

I've bought a couple of low/no reserve items for a few quid that were worth hundreds as no-one else was in the market for them that week on eBay. A Reserve would have put manners on me - their loss, my gain
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Old 23 October 2011, 08:10   #18
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To be honest I rarely use them and don't like them when I'm bidding on things.

I normally put things on a buy it now. When I do use the auction I start at a penny at let it run with no reserve.

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Old 23 October 2011, 08:49   #19
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Thanks for the replies guys,

I'll discount the SR4 for now, I've never seriously researched buying a RIB before and this is all good education.

The Bonwitco is likely to be offered at about 750, is that a reasonable price and what kind of money would I be likely to get for the Suzuki 55 with gearbox issues ?

Thanks again,

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Old 23 October 2011, 10:25   #20
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i have the same boat and any motor less than 50 is just not worth it
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