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Old 13 August 2005, 18:27   #21
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yea no doubt any RIB could beat a Hard Sided Boat in a rough water race....the Hard boat would keep stuffing its bow
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If you compare apples with apples, RIBS are still the most forgiving stable and safe platform for their size in inclement conditions. Comparing hard hulled raceboats with the average RIB proves nowt.
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Old 13 August 2005, 18:34   #23
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BLOODY HELL!!!
thought you would like that. I have a rib to go diving, as it turns out it also makes an excellent boat for cruising be it a day trip or longer distance.

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If you compare apples with apples, RIBS are still the most forgiving stable and safe platform for their size in inclement conditions. Comparing hard hulled raceboats with the average RIB proves nowt.
Agreed, make a mistake in a rib and she ought to recover the situation for you.

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yea no doubt any RIB could beat a Hard Sided Boat in a rough water race....the Hard boat would keep stuffing its bow
not if it was driven properly
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yea properly meaning throttling back or finding the ideal speed for the condition....RIBs...3 words......WOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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yea properly meaning throttling back or finding the ideal speed for the condition....RIBs...3 words......WOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


There ya go again, making me cry! (with Laughter)

You're right codders, I am on the wrong forum, and you're definitely on the right one!

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yea properly meaning throttling back or finding the ideal speed for the condition....RIBs...3 words......WOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WOT!!
Yeah, most likely at 15knts.

You're a great sport 'choppywaters'

JK'll be proud of this one!
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wut can i say.....if u dont live life on the edge ur taking up to much space
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was gonna say something bout ribs vs hardboats but it would only result in jf laffin his a** of and all the people who are into inflatables getting upset!!
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The RNLI have obviously got it all wrong - I mean - ANY old 22' open boat can go out in a force 9............
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The RNLI have obviously got it all wrong - I mean - ANY old 22' open boat can go out in a force 9............
Codders,

You are getting it all mixed up, as a rescue craft, a rib is superb, in fact there are loads'a situations in which I agree that a rib is the perfect choice.

I'd even have one myself for certain jobs ..

However, the 'usual drivel' that I find so funny, is about sea keeping, especially when it's with reference to going fast, and how in a rib, you never have to throttle back, coz they're so incredible in a big sea.


WOT, you never have to slow down in a rib, they're so good! ....yeah right.

I think there have been some good points made on this thread, in particular, the one about getting swamped in a small-ish open hard boat being un-recoverable, obviously pretty true, and assuming your toob don't fall orf, and you've got 'E trunks', your rib will get you out of that situation with little effort.

so, if your idea of rough water ability is based on loloping through a massive sea, very slowly, with the possibility of getting swamped a real one, an unsinkable boat has to be the right tool.

My experience of the rib community however, is that a huge majority don't go out in weather any worse than most hard boaters, and people who go out in these horrid conditions, and use their ribs in the ways spoken about on here, are a tiny minority! I guess they just like the association with the macho perception of 'emergency services'.

A well respected ribnet member has said to me on more than one occasion, most ribbers are 'wannabe lifeboatmen', with a desperate need for association with the 'rescue services', all the safety kit, three radios, ten epirbs, 15 spare engines, chocolate rations, bowie knives, crash helmets, a liferaft with it's own liferaft, etc, etc, there's summat odd about the average ribbers mindset, especially as the majority don't even go out in the 'real' rough.


So Codders, Ramsgate was the roughest race this year so far, really quite snotty, so which boat type set the highest average speed? (by a long way)

was it the near 30 foot pascoe rib, no, was it Cookees pretty large (25-26' ??) rib, no, although he did do very well versus the 'sprint type' hard monos.

Actually, it was a 24' hard mono, in fact, had the alternator not failed on Mark Preistly's one (he retired, leaving another identical boat to win, albeit a fair bit slower than he'd been going) his average would probably have been getting on for twice that of the big ribs.

How can this be possible without the 'magic toobs'?....a fluke maybe

Why is it you lot can't just love your ribs for what they ARE good at, instead of wanting to live in this 'there aint nothing like a rib' world, fuelled with all this macho bollix?

I can accept that there are many jobs where a rigid inflatable is the best tool, why can't you lot accept that there are plenty of situations where a fragile, limited life expectancy, wet riding, easy to fall out of, very exposed, and generally over priced 'rib', aint the right tool?

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