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Old 12 August 2005, 16:14   #11
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RIBs were developed for rough conditions and for rough use - a bit like Land Rover's and Hummers - i think they appeal to the same sort of people and i think RIBs will eventually be seen in the same light as a SUV in the USA.

http://www.zodiaccz7.com/

Have a look at this - the video in the gallery is awesome.

Having said that the CZ7 is way overpriced and there are much better RIBs out there.

One of the earliest pioneers were Avon and they developed the RIB along with the RNLI for rescue work.

If you want to drool look at some of these

http://www.scorpionribs.com/

http://www.boomeranger.fi/images/ind...conditions.mpg

http://www.pascoeinternational.com/page/range2a
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Old 13 August 2005, 09:44   #12
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I dunno! I think you will get more speed out of a proper Hardboat then the equivalent RIB. Any one know what you get from a Phantom 21 with an XR2, its quite a lot I think there is no drag from the tubes plus , dont forget, hard boats are so much easier to polish!
You will also for the length get more room in your hardbaot! Thiss could be a point for your folks.

Re the dealers if they do not sell RIBS then they are not going to grant them any creedence. A salesman aint gonna turn you away from his shop and recomend you go somwhere else is he!

I have a couple of Ribs and I love driving them and being on the water and I think that is the difference. Ribs are for people who love being on the water and hard boats are for people who love boats!

you need to further analyse why you want a craft!

hope you get on the water soon!
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Old 13 August 2005, 11:18   #13
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I dunno! I think you will get more speed out of a proper Hardboat then the equivalent RIB. Any one know what you get from a Phantom 21 with an XR2, its quite a lot I think there is no drag from the tubes plus , dont forget, hard boats are so much easier to polish!


hope you get on the water soon!
Hard boats are much faster - we used to have a Fletcher 199 Bravo with a 200hp - did about 70mph without too much effort - having said that though once there was a big chop running you had to slow right down - a RIB would have just kept going!!!
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Here's some of my thoughts
1.Stability at rest makes them ideal for rescue, diving. The tubes mean you could all be on one side of the rib with no real issue( in most small hard boats they would be rolling over)
2.If you have ever stuffed a hard boat and its filled with water its almost an unrecoverable position to be in e.g engine partially submerged contents of boat floating about at the will of the sea...In a rib even when its full of water you still have a fair amount of buoyancy in her which makes the situation recoverable (in most ribs, with decent size tubes) just bail out and start again.
3. Built in fenders
4. Chicks dig them (apart from my missus, who seems to hate them? )
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big chop running you had to slow right down - a RIB would have just kept going!!!
Your dreaming, no wonder this cracks Jonny Fuller up. The explosion in the Rib market started in the late 80s and early 90s from a demand from the UK diving franternity. Prior to this sales in ribs was tiny and a very limited market and little innotive development from the previous year.

During the 80/90s grants became available from the likes of the sports council for clubs to buy boats that previously were unavailable to most clubs due to the high cost matched with individuals willing to put the money up to have there own rib. At the same time divers realised that a rib could take them further afield tackling more remote wrecks. Also dive computers for the first time became reliable and affordable enabling ordinary divers to push previous boundaries. The ability to carry large amounts of kit in a relatively small boat safely with damaging kit or boat and easy entry / exit of the boat made a rib and ideal tool for divers. Protection from the elements wasn't high on the list of priorities because drysuit technology finally started producing something that nearly met our needs.

The demand for ribs was met by companies like Avon, Delta, Chinook, Humber, Raider/BWM and Osprey. In the early days you didn't need MMSI numbers, we knew each other. Sadly this has meant that the UK speedboat manufacturers have had a lean time of it during the past decade.

Depending on what the boat is to be used for a hardboat could make a much better choice and a lot faster. As RW says a lot more space, dry storage, decent seats and a cabin even on small boats.

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Your dreaming, no wonder this cracks Jonny Fuller up. The explosion in the Rib market started in the late 80s and early 90s from a demand from the UK diving franternity. Prior to this sales in ribs was tiny and a very limited market and little innotive development from the previous year.

During the 80/90s grants became available from the likes of the sports council for clubs to buy boats that previously were unavailable to most clubs due to the high cost matched with individuals willing to put the money up to have there own rib. At the same time divers realised that a rib could take them further afield tackling more remote wrecks. Also dive computers for the first time became reliable and affordable enabling ordinary divers to push previous boundaries. The ability to carry large amounts of kit in a relatively small boat safely with damaging kit or boat and easy entry / exit of the boat made a rib and ideal tool for divers. Protection from the elements wasn't high on the list of priorities because drysuit technology finally started producing something that nearly met our needs.

The demand for ribs was met by companies like Avon, Delta, Chinook, Humber, Raider/BWM and Osprey. In the early days you didn't need MMSI numbers, we knew each other. Sadly this has meant that the UK speedboat manufacturers have had a lean time of it during the past decade.

Depending on what the boat is to be used for a hardboat could make a much better choice and a lot faster. As RW says a lot more space, dry storage, decent seats and a cabin even on small boats.

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Your dreaming, no wonder this cracks Jonny Fuller up. The explosion in the Rib market started in the late 80s and early 90s from a demand from the UK diving franternity. Prior to this sales in ribs was tiny and a very limited market and little innotive development from the previous year.

Depending on what the boat is to be used for a hardboat could make a much better choice and a lot faster. As RW says a lot more space, dry storage, decent seats and a cabin even on small boats.

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So WHY exactly do RIBs do so well in races when the water gets rough???

I think you may be on the wrong forum.............
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So WHY exactly do RIBs do so well in races when the water gets rough???
I wasn't aware they did.

This seems to be a web site of many 'urban myths'.

Go to a race codders, and compare the performance between ribs and hard boats of similar size, engine power and hull design, then see if you still think they're different.

Most pleasure ribs are set up with quite different weight distribution to sports boats, and as such, will lolop through a lumpy sea with better pitch stability than a boat set up with 'speed' in mind, but this doesn't mean anything other than that! 'set up' different.
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I think you may be on the wrong forum.............
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I wasn't aware they did.


Go to a race codders, and compare the performance between ribs and hard boats of similar size, engine power and hull design, then see if you still think they're different.
Have done - many times - I still think that a RIB will be better off in really rough conditions than a similar hard boat - or am I the ONLY person here going to stick up for RIBs????
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