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Old 08 February 2008, 21:21   #31
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I had to laugh at this post , will anyone ever admit there is any disadvantage to a rib ,
Of course hypalon in general fades faster andhas a shorter life than grp , maybe certain bright colours are an exeption, but if a rib has any disadvantage its the degredation of the tubes .
Of course there's disadvantages to a rib. It's the same as anything else though-horses for courses and you get the quality you pay for. Buy a Baywhiner or a cheaply tubed rib then abuse it and it'll be outlived by a pint of milk...

It'd be interesting to see how well a good GRP boat handled being abused in the same way an Sr5.4 used as a safety rib is though. I suspect if the work was done professionally the cash paid out wouldn't be that much different to make it look good again.
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Old 09 February 2008, 00:13   #32
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Of course there's disadvantages to a rib. It's the same as anything else though-horses for courses and you get the quality you pay for. Buy a Baywhiner or a cheaply tubed rib then abuse it and it'll be outlived by a pint of milk...

It'd be interesting to see how well a good GRP boat handled being abused in the same way an Sr5.4 used as a safety rib is though. I suspect if the work was done professionally the cash paid out wouldn't be that much different to make it look good again.

Yup. I have a small zodiac SIB that is over 30 years old and has seen plenty of hard use (such as running over beaver dams with lots of throttle and the like). The floor boards & trust board have been replaced, the floor fabric is rough, the transom is pulling away from the tubes and so on. The only thing that is original and still holding up very well is the hypalon tubeset (with the odd patch here & there ).
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Old 09 February 2008, 10:03   #33
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Well my SR4 is late 1970's I believe, it looks as ugly today as it did when it was brand new. I don't know its history but its in remarkably good condition, having said that a brand new Searider is alot of cash, I imagine it will outlive some of these new med style boats.

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my boats five years old with 800 hours on it, just take a bit of care over it and get a good breathable cover
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Well my SR4 is late 1970's I believe,
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Of course there's disadvantages to a rib. It's the same as anything else though-horses for courses and you get the quality you pay for. Buy a Baywhiner or a cheaply tubed rib then abuse it and it'll be outlived by a pint of milk...

It'd be interesting to see how well a good GRP boat handled being abused in the same way an Sr5.4 used as a safety rib is though. I suspect if the work was done professionally the cash paid out wouldn't be that much different to make it look good again.
Don't worry iam not turning into Mr Fuller ,I still like ribs but just found all the positive comments and justification amusing
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TORNADOS DO NOT AGE WELL AT ALL!!

The surface of the PVC tubes wears very quickly with any kind of use and leaves you with the string / pattern showing through very quickly, particularly in a commercial application.

I've not had much use with them in a leisure environment - that I readily accept, but I think in the leisure market, if a boat is covered up and generally well cared for I don't think there's much in it!

Grafham Sailing Club have four 5.4m seariders that are 20+ years old, still with original tubes that are in immaculate condition. A credit to the club and Avon.

In comparison they have a 6m Tornado that does not look in as good a condition at all!

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CJL, this popular misconception keeps arising.

Tornados are more from Polyeurothane (PU) NOT PVC! PVC is a totally different and inferior material.
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how well do humber destroyers age?
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My mistake, it still older than me!

And my experience with older Tornados is the tubes always go. We have one at the local sailing club and it needs a retube, think its a 1992. They leak from the seams I think, either way I thought they were notorious for it.
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