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Old 10 September 2006, 16:02   #1
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Which radar reflector?????

I going to the boat show and am looking buy a reflector for my rib. I have looked at the plastimo tube type which seem very easy to mount on my double a-frame, but I was thinking/have heard the Echomax ones give a better reflection? My budget ideally is < 125.

I am thinking of doing more off shore crusing ie channel islands etc.

Also, how easy is it to drill S/Steel?

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I reckon there is only one that will look right on a RIB and do a decent job - the Viking TriLens - the standard not the mini.

The tube type aren't much good and the echomax are just too big.

http://www.tri-lens.com/trilensweb12002001.htm

Why on Earth they show it against a mast and not on top of an arch is beyond me - MUCH better suited to power boats!!!

http://www.marine-super-store.com/po...IKING+TRI-LENS
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I going to the boat show and am looking buy a reflector for my rib. I have looked at the plastimo tube type which seem very easy to mount on my double a-frame, but I was thinking/have heard the Echomax ones give a better reflection? My budget ideally is < 125.

I am thinking of doing more off shore crusing ie channel islands etc.

Also, how easy i it to drill S/Steel?

regards richard
Forget the Plastimo tubes cos they don't comply. Go for the Echomax 230 MIDI
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Small world!!!!
The Trilens manufacturer is about 2 miles down the road from me
Wonder if they get any slight seconds Been thinking about getting one ever since a sub surfaced a little too close for comfort

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From a "big ship's" viewpoint, I'd always recommend an active radar device such as the Sea-Me, i.e. one that returns a signal when "interrogated" by a passing radar beam. Even a very good radar reflector isn't going to do much at 1.5m above the waterline. More often than not, those who say their reflector on the a-frame gives a good return miss the point that the return we get on the ship is actually from the a-frame, not the device!

A quick hint - always carry a roll of kitchen foil with you. If you break down, drift, or have to anchor near heavy traffic, roll it from one side of the a frame over the top to the other. By far the safest way of being found by a bridge radar.

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Small world!!!!
The Trilens manufacturer is about 2 miles down the road from me
Wonder if they get any slight seconds Been thinking about getting one ever since a sub surfaced a little too close for comfort

cheers Dal
Wouldn't have saved you from the sub - radar not too good under water - makes it boil....

The tri lens IS really good - there is something even better - the Cyclops made in the UK -= looks awesome as well vut they are too busy doing sneaky stuff for the MOD to bother with the public these days!!! Made in the UK but pics from a Yank website - typical......

http://www.openseas.com/cyclops/cyclops.htm

The best of them all though as has been mentioned is the See Me - an active device that makes a small RIB look like an aircraft carrier - it also warns you when other people are using Radar in the area. Not cheap though!!!
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Echomax (slightly biased opinion!)

There's a new 180 model which as the numbers imply is more compact than the 230 range. Still 8 sq m peak area though.

Unfortunately, there isn't a basemount version yet, but you could use the mast mount brackets to attach it to the side of the A-frame.

If you don't fancy lugging one home from the Boat Show, please give me a call on 01256 478000. We currently have the 180 for 94.99 including the mast mount brackets.
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Maybe you should start stocking the tri lens - it could have been designed for RIBs(except even the makers show it attached to a mast where it just doesn't look right)!!!

They are hard to get hold of - most people have never heard of them!!! Same as the Cyclops - why do radar reflector makers enjoy hiding???
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Forget the Plastimo tubes cos they don't comply. Go for the Echomax 230 MIDI
Not saying that they are any good, but I've had two ribs coded (mca and local authority) using them - what dont they comply with?
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This thread has been discussed before and I'd be interested to hear what people think about my thoughts.

In my view buy the cheapest you can because they are all rubbish and paying more for something that doesn't work well seems pointless. Unless you go for an active system which is big bucks pay around 20 for the smallest system that doesn't make you look like a lighthouse on the move.

What is the point of having one other than to satisfy the legal requirement and if that is the reason I'd buy, and have done, the cheapest because in my previous research they don't really work.

Under what conditions do they make a difference. If your out in fog you should have a radar and don't rely on someone else not crashing into you.

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