which is best all weather 7-8m rib?

marios · 31 December 2004, 15:55

searching to buy a new rib around 7-8m and need some advises. i need my rib for long trips in open sea, as i live in cyprus and like to visit greek islands some times...

Richard B · 31 December 2004, 16:07

Hi,

What distance is that journey from Cyprus to the Greek Islands?

marios · 31 December 2004, 16:21

it is about 450km for the first island...

Richard B · 31 December 2004, 16:30

And you're going to do this 450km by RIB?

Is there anywhere to refuel on the way or is it open water?

Alan · 31 December 2004, 16:43

Without a question its one of those South African Phalcon wonderboats. I think some bloke in Greece is supposed to be building them now.

tim griffin · 31 December 2004, 18:08

go to www.nautimarmarine.com/kysiffos.html quite an adventure was had when they went to Kastellorizo.

island8 · 31 December 2004, 22:51

zodiac 733 hurricane

marios · 01 January 2005, 11:40

dear Richard B ... no refuel is possible because the counrty next to us (Turkey) is not a friently one to us

borders are closed so kastelorizo is the first refuel station and it is about 450km..

codprawn · 01 January 2005, 12:31

It would have to be a diesel - easy to find anywhere there are fishing boats and better economy.

You could either buy a British boat and have it shipped over or look for something more local. The British boats tend to be able to cope with really rough waters!

http://www.cobraribs.com/ - they are stunning boats and have sold loads to your area so have plenty of experience of shipping. Really nice boats but not for very rough weather although will handle almost anything the med would throw at it!

http://www.revenger.co.uk/
http://www.scorpionribs.com/

These two are brilliant - usually fighting it out to make boats for winning offshore racing etc - hold many records between them - Revenger the fastest right around the British coast - and they don't come much rougher!

Richard B · 01 January 2005, 12:53

Well, it wouldn't have to be diesel - the petrol v diesel would be a choice based on the availability of fuel at your departure point and at Kastelorizo.

Given that your journey is about 450km = 279miles, then your boat will need to be designed around the fuel tanks, and if you are planning to make the trip regularly, then you may want to have permanent underfloor tanks rather than flexible deck tanks.

This thread may be of interest to you - http://www.rib.net/forum/showthread.php?t=7902 their crossing of the North Sea was, I think, roughly the same distance (or a little more) that you are planning?

Codprawn has suggested three RIB manufacturers who build good boats. Scorpion are manufactured in Greece under license by Ribco and are one of the best all purpose RIBs available - I'm led to belive that the Scorpion (Ribco) has a drier ride than the Cobra, and a softer ride than the Revenger.

However, I think there's much more to decide before narrowing down Manufacturers - fuel type (ie petrol or diesel), number of engines (ie 1 or 2) and style of weather protection (ie cabin or open) being possibly the most important.

codprawn · 01 January 2005, 13:46

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Originally Posted by Richard B

Well, it wouldn't have to be diesel - the petrol v diesel would be a choice based on the availability of fuel at your departure point and at Kastelorizo.

However, I think there's much more to decide before narrowing down Manufacturers - fuel type (ie petrol or diesel), number of engines (ie 1 or 2) and style of weather protection (ie cabin or open) being possibly the most important.

True but if for some reason a detour had to be made - perhaps due to bad weather etc then diesel would offer far more options!

I would have loved to have gone down the diesel route but funds just wouldn't allow it!!!

Having said that if fuel supply and costs weren't the main criteria 2x 250 Evinrudes would be my preffered choice!!!

Richard B · 01 January 2005, 13:49

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Originally Posted by codprawn

2x 250 Evinrudes would be my preffered choice!!!

Mine too from all the currently available informtion! In fact an upgrade to one of those for Blue Ice would be nice... Oh I dream!

marios · 01 January 2005, 16:49

well about the cabine boat is a possibility i think of too. i have in mind nyova jolly king with cabine but i have no details of this boat how she behaves in the rough...
other possibility is to have a camping tent installed on the boat... so i avoid the wait for the cabine... but what about the toilet?
about the engines i prefer the outboards , i have in mind twins probably 140hp suzuki...
the most important for me is the hull and tubes fit to be made for rough....

eksrae · 01 January 2005, 17:07

how about a canadian made alloy rib. lots of room for xtra fuel. very sea worthy

thorper · 01 January 2005, 17:33

Have a look at the Tornado ribs - very sturdy boats, with a dry ride and excellent handling. Not as flash as scorpions or revengers, but they have a good reputation as workboats.

website: www.ribs.co.uk

Ricky

Pete7 · 01 January 2005, 18:56

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Originally Posted by codprawn

It would have to be a diesel - easy to find anywhere there are fishing boats and better economy

Oh why? a Ribtec Camel rib has that range and a purpose built frame for a soft shelter too boot

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http://www.cobraribs.com/ - they are stunning boats and have sold loads to your area so have plenty of experience of shipping. Really nice boats but not for very rough weather although will handle almost anything the med would throw at it!

Really? the med can be a very nasty piece of water, so why can't a Cobra handle rough water then?

Peter

codprawn · 02 January 2005, 02:23

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Originally Posted by Pete7

Oh why? a Ribtec Camel rib has that range and a purpose built frame for a soft shelter too boot

Really? the med can be a very nasty piece of water, so why can't a Cobra handle rough water then?

Peter

The V isn't quite as deep as some of the other British boats but is still deeper than most of the med style ones.

As to the med being nasty sorry but just doesn't compare with the Irish Sea or Bristol Channel

Alan Priddy · 02 January 2005, 09:46

More RIBTEC's have been around Britain then any other boat. More RIBTEC's have crossed the Atlantic than any other boat.RIBTEC'S hold more world records than any other boat. And at present, RIBTEC are level with Zodiac for circumnavaigting the World. (One each) ! Proberbly not a very good boat then!!!!! Alan P

Alan Priddy · 02 January 2005, 09:49

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Originally Posted by codprawn

The V isn't quite as deep as some of the other British boats but is still deeper than most of the med style ones.

As to the med being nasty sorry but just doesn't compare with the Irish Sea or Bristol Channel

Got news for you, it bloody well does!! The med can be the nastiest place in the world to boat where as the Irish Sea and Bristol Channel is just a shity place. Alan P

Richard B · 02 January 2005, 11:39

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Originally Posted by Alan Priddy

More RIBTEC's have been around Britain then any other boat.

Interesting... How many?

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More RIBTEC's have crossed the Atlantic than any other boat.

Are you sure? A lot of boats cross the pond... I would guess that a manufacturer like Sadler, Westerley, or Moody would be in the running for this, or p'raps Harland and Wolff or Vosper Thorneycroft! Do you mean RIBs only?