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Old 06 April 2012, 07:57   #1
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Which flares...

I've done a good search around and although I remember myriads of "what flares do I need to carry" type threads I can't seem to find any.

All our flares are out of date so we are starting afresh (already have baby parachutes).

We used to have two big parachutes and a pack of three crummy French ones, really not sure what good they would have done, they were really designed for the old boat which wasn't allowed to be more than 6 miles from a shelter.

Most of you know the sort of trips we do but I'd say we would never be more than about 40 miles offshore at any stage, perhaps slightly over that mid channel at wide points but not massively so. So...what do we need!
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- these are probably "mini flares" - they are not actually parachutes, they go straight up (perhaps to 60m) and straight back down so are visible for less time than an actual parachute.

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have two big parachutes and a pack of three crummy French ones, really not sure what good they would have done
I'd have thought the "French ones" were still made to SOLAS standards and would be just as good as any other? They are perhaps handheld rather than parachute/rocket type flares? I'd have hoped that someone doing the sort of boating you do would understand the difference and when each should be used.
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- these are probably "mini flares" - they are not actually parachutes, they go straight up (perhaps to 60m) and straight back down so are visible for less time than an actual parachute.

I'd have thought the "French ones" were still made to SOLAS standards and would be just as good as any other? They are perhaps handheld rather than parachute/rocket type flares? I'd have hoped that someone doing the sort of boating you do would understand the difference and when each should be used.
Yeah but they got wet on day one of our first ever boating expedition because we hadn't quite grasped the concept of keeping safety equipment dry by that stage.

The old safety grab bag has a hole in it too so currently looking at a pelicase but any suggestions for alternatives greatly appreciated. Will check the RNLI link.
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http://www.rya.org.uk/SiteCollection...o-Sheet-A4.pdf

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I'd have thought the "French ones" were still made to SOLAS standards and would be just as good as any other?
If they're French, then they'll be Superior in every way...

...except they may be a bit volatile and prone to premature detonation
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If they're French, then they'll be Superior in every way...

...except they may be a bit volatile and prone to early detonation
or liable to going on strike or stopping you getting in/out of a french port. GG - I'd get rid as soon as you can!
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...except they may be a bit volatile and prone to premature detonation
They'll probably disappear at the first sign of trouble too!
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