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Old 20 July 2004, 17:18   #11
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you are right the old BS colours ie red black cream so on were very good
and most people agree in my trade but all BS standards are to be replace with EN standards over time

as for halon we have to carry a permit for recorded waste on our van
it a 200 pound fine now for each kg you have with out a permit

a part from the MOD stuff so biggles can have one one his rib

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Old 21 July 2004, 03:51   #12
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In a previous job I was involved in testing fire extinguishers which were intended for use in cars, I have let off hundreds, and without doubt halon is best.

The problem you can get with powder is that the fire can continue in the less accessible parts of the engine bay, whereas with halon as long as you aim it in the rough direction it worked ever time.

Accessibility is a real issue because you need to get to the base of the fire and if that is covered by an engine cowl you will have to find some way of getting the powder in so it can to work. On my engine cover there is a port hole so you see if there is a fire and beside that a capped hole which allows you to squirt the fire extinguisher in. The only problem I see with this design is that the cap is made of steel so if there is a fire it will be red hot and not much fun to open (must remember oven gloves next time I go out) Des
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Old 21 July 2004, 04:34   #13
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AFFF-what a waste of time.

The amount of rally cars i have seen burn out completely after having three or four AFFF 2 litre units sprayed on it is mind boggling.

As someone has pointed out, a burning car is far worse for the environment than squirting and extinguisher off.

I would rather pay the fine and live/save my machine than watch it burn out with useless AFFF.

On the back of the 432 APC we have on the paintball site are two lovely Halon units, they'll be coming out with me, i'd rather be skint than look like Simon Weston.

Get a halon, paint it red, stick AFFF stickers on, that's what lots of road rally boys do, bit naughty but least it works.
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Old 21 July 2004, 05:11   #14
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great thread guys....... so which extigusher do i buy for my 4.7 metre rib ? does it have to be specifally a marine one or will any do the job ?

And are they really that worth having aboard anyway, currently when out i'm sitting on 65 litres of petrol and have a seperate 24 litres strapped to the back deck, in between this and the engine is the battery, if that lot catches fire i'm out of there pretty damn quick whether i jump over board of the thing blows
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The best thing about Halon extinguishers is you can get them for NOTHING - trouble is they are hard to find now - just wish I had collected a load a while ago.
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Old 21 July 2004, 08:36   #16
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Fire Extinguisher

Does anybody know if having a fire extinguisher on board entitles you to a reduction in insurance premium?
I have a petrol outboard and a 60 gallon fuel tank. If there was a fire, I'd get everyone in the water and as far away from the boat as possible, so the only kind of extinguisher that would work for me would be some kind of automatic one inside the cowling if there is such a thing?
Has anybody heard of/ had an experience of an outboard catching fire?
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Old 21 July 2004, 08:43   #17
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Reference "all auto extinguishers are Dry Powder"

That is not the case. For Inboard engines you can get the Halon subsitute called FE 2000 I think. Insurance companies do not like DP as it can wreck the engine if powder is sucked in, despite tha fact the you may have just saved the boat from a complete burn out!!!
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Old 21 July 2004, 08:45   #18
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Does anybody know if having a fire extinguisher on board entitles you to a reduction in insurance premium?
I have a petrol outboard and a 60 gallon fuel tank. If there was a fire, I'd get everyone in the water and as far away from the boat as possible, so the only kind of extinguisher that would work for me would be some kind of automatic one inside the cowling if there is such a thing?
Has anybody heard of/ had an experience of an outboard catching fire?
Yes I have heard of an outboard catching fire. A engine installer had too much length left in the cable loom and did know what to do with it so he wrapped it around the engine before putting the cover back on!!!!!!! Guess what happened next???
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There was a mariner 50 4 stroke in plymouth that had an eletrical fire a few weeks ago something must have caused a short on the emectronics side and it went up. First fire extinguisher failed to fire but second one did work.
Boat towed in I think it was just wiring and plastic bits to replace.
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