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Old 19 June 2006, 14:02   #81
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What Humbers have a deeper vee ?

I have a lot to learn here Thanks for all the help .

That Avon looks nice , but same engine as that one on ebay , again doesn't sound big enough for a 5.6 boat hence the price I guess . That avon would be a Grand more with a 90 4 stroke , and I have decided that I must have a 4 stroke . Iam doing lots of miles in the sib so a bigger boat will only mean more miles .
Since its mainly with the family I wont have crew to share the cost and using 100 of petrol and oil most weekends would soon take the fun out it .
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Old 19 June 2006, 15:04   #82
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I think the Humbers with deeper Vee hull are the Attack, Destroyer and Ocean Pro. Their website may be able to tell more?
The good thing about looking for a boat at this time of year is that there's loads available. The bad thing is they sell for loads of dosh, as you're not the only guy looking to buy.
Keeping a keen eye open and having the cash ready to jump in quickly may pay dividends.
Happy hunting.
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Old 21 June 2006, 18:39   #83
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Valiant V490 with a mariner 75 elpt all 2000 and looks really cared for with service history.

Not sure about iether , would be powerful I guess and perhaps not too thirsty as it would cruise on less power .

I have been looking for a pic of a valiant hull and can't find one , is it a deep V or just semi .
I do like the boat good trailer and gps fish finder etc and the seating is good for the family .

Now spoil my nice picture folks , its crap??eh
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Old 21 June 2006, 18:43   #84
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....and I have decided that I must have a 4 stroke .
Have you changed your mind on four strokes then?
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Old 21 June 2006, 18:50   #85
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Have you changed your mind on four strokes then?
Yes well maybe Iam dreaming . Everything I see with a 4 stroke is like a 50hp on a 5m plus boat . I guess its the super economy choice but I do want something faster than my sib . This one looks to be genuine with dealer service history .

It seems a boat with a decent 4 stroke all newer than 1999 is 9 grand plus and thats too much at present .
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Old 21 June 2006, 19:02   #86
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Well if you buy a boat with a 2-stroke for the right money, it will leave a fair bit in the pot to spend on petrol.
You may be in a good bargaining position - with more and more 4 strokes around nowadays, you may be able to argue that the motor will be noisy, expensive on fuel, etc.
I've seen a few Valiant 490s, but never been out on one. They look ok - think they have a moulded deck and if I recall, there were two versions: one in orange, kitted out in dive form, with centre console, the other in light grey, I think, with a bench seat? Which type have you seen?
I seem to recall they both shared the same basic hull, which I think had a reasonably deep vee. There's a few on B&O, at varying prices.
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Well if you buy a boat with a 2-stroke for the right money, it will leave a fair bit in the pot to spend on petrol.
You may be in a good bargaining position - with more and more 4 strokes around nowadays, you may be able to argue that the motor will be noisy, expensive on fuel, etc.
I've seen a few Valiant 490s, but never been out on one. They look ok - think they have a moulded deck and if I recall, there were two versions: one in orange, kitted out in dive form, with centre console, the other in light grey, I think, with a bench seat? Which type have you seen?
I seem to recall they both shared the same basic hull, which I think had a reasonably deep vee. There's a few on B&O, at varying prices.
Downhilldai is correct there are two types of Valiant: The Vanguards and the Patrols / DR. I believe the PT's are fitted out with jockeys as opposed to bench seating and may even have a deeper vee. The Vanguards such as you mention have a shallow vee and the bench seating is not ideal, a good friend of mine has a V520 and 75 Mariner 2stroke, not ideal, the seating does not inspire confidence and it seems to be a bit of a handful in the rough. I would try to find a Patrol if you go Valiant. These pics illustrate the difference quite well:
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this one has a jockey console for the driver , that looks long enough for my daughter to sit behind me . It also has a bench across the stern and a good backrest with grab handle on the back of the jockey .
For me thats the best of both worlds .
The 75 is the max engine size for the boat. The boat is red I guess an older version of the newer grey ones that seem to have lost the jockey consul
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if you see a boat up this way that you want me to take a look at for you and maybe get a load of digital pics of then just say. i know it would be a long trip for you to just inspect a boat

brad could cover his area of south wales so we can do a bit of a foot print for you

just let me know
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75HP on a V490 is going to be abit overpowered methinks. My mates V520 with 75hp is bad enough, chine walks like hell, had the engine moved several times but it still handles like a lilo. 60HP on a 490 is your best bet.
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