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Old 29 June 2011, 06:28   #31
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Thank you Polwart, that's exactly the type of information I need, about the length and the brand issue.

I thought the RIB was the only proper option, but maybe I should look in to the SIBs.

The only boat I've seen that looked nice for a reasonable price was the Zodiac Yachtline 310 R. 1200 pounds I think, for a good shape used boat.

Quicksilver was just a manufacturer that I've seen, I have no idea what type of boats they have, you're probably right about it only being SIBs.

About the carrying, I was thinking without the engine as I'm aware how much they weigh. I would make sure to carry the engine separately. My reason for wanting it to be portable is that it would be great to be able to put it in the water anywhere, not having to find somewhere that I could back the trailer down into the water.

3 people is maximum and only for "ferrying", but I would like it to ride good with 2 people on it. No children will be aboard.

I could trailer it everywhere, but it would be lovely if I could bring in strapped on top of the cars roof, with the engine in the trunk. No idea if that's possible though, as I havent event touched a rib boat... Just the SIBs.

Max: The questions left: Budget is flexible, however I would like to get good value for money. So not Rolex then..
If rough water is a strong current river, that's one thing I'd like to handle. However, I wont be going out in big waves on the sea. No water sports intended, mostly just transporting myself a few kilometers when the weather allows, and hopefully in a fun way.

I would like to be able to go in shallower waters than I can with my hard boat. Although I understand that it's probably the engine that will take the beatings.

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Now that is really useful info and make the choice very easy. IMHO and having gone from a RIB to a SIB I think a SIB around 3.4m (Zodiac, Quicksilver etc) would be perfect, combined with an easily portable and perfectly matched Tohatsu 9.8 2 stroke - which happens to be exactly the rig I went for!!



Very portable, budget under 2k, carry it all easily by hand with two adults, packs in the back of any hatchback, will take 3 - 4 people easily, fast enough for your needs, launch anywhere at any time, will handle rivers and gentle seas with ease.

Only other option is maybe one of the folding transom GRP floor Avon type models.
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Old 29 June 2011, 09:02   #32
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Now this is some good answers! However the rough ride to get them was probably necessary for the attention, eventhough that wasn't at all what was intended.

Really interesting about the SIB option, seems like many of you votes for that. Wouldn't have expected that at all! But the portability of a 9,8 hp 2-stroke should remain even with a RIB, and the RIB would handle worse water better? I'm still tempted...

I think I read that the Zodiac weighed 78 kilos or something, which will do fine. I wont be carrying it long and not alone. However 108 kg for that aluminum boat is a bit too much, that happens to be exactly what I weigh and I can't say I enjoy chin lifts (when you drag yourself up to a branch or something?).

No opinions about Zodiac in particular? And no one has tried having a RIB ~3 meters on the roof of their car?

Really helpful answers you all are giving me now, gives me a better idea of what to search for. Thanks!
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Old 29 June 2011, 09:17   #33
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IMHO and having gone from a RIB to a SIB I think a SIB around 3.4m (Zodiac, Quicksilver etc) would be perfect, combined with an easily portable and perfectly matched Tohatsu 9.8 2 stroke - which happens to be exactly the rig I went for!!

So how come you did the switch to SIB? For the portability?
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have not read most of the thread so it may have crept slightly but the best rib IMO and others on this forum would be Ribcraft?
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have not read most of the thread so it may have crept slightly but the best rib IMO and others on this forum would be Ribcraft?
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have not read most of the thread so it may have crept slightly but the best rib IMO and others on this forum would be Ribcraft?
He wants to put it on top of his car. Which Ribcraft model would you suggest

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Really interesting about the SIB option, seems like many of you votes for that. Wouldn't have expected that at all! But the portability of a 9,8 hp 2-stroke should remain even with a RIB, and the RIB would handle worse water better? I'm still tempted...
A RIB will be heavier (usually). A RIB will have a less "efficient" hull design (but more comfortable). These will combine to mean that 9.8HP on a RIB will be slower than 9.8HP on a SIB unless the weather prevents you going fast.

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I think I read that the Zodiac weighed 78 kilos or something, which will do fine. I wont be carrying it long and not alone.
you should try carrying 78 kg - in boat form its still quite a bit of weight, I'd also assume it still has about 10kg of water slopping about in it for the first few metres till you can drain it properly. Its possible but I'll bet you buy some transom wheels anyway!

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And no one has tried having a RIB ~3 meters on the roof of their car?
What weight is your car rated to take? Do you think you can lift it up there? (Search for 9d280's posts he suggests using a dinghy loading system as used by topper/laser sailors etc).

Now you need to think about PVC / PU / Hypalon questions...
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We're all going round in circles... - given *your* criteria and usage a RIB will not work and as said above a (heavy compared to a SIB) RIB is underpowered with a 9.8 and regardless non-collapsable and too heavy to carry, again given your scenario.
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Sure sounds like the arguments for buying a SIB instead of a RIB is gathering! So what will I miss by making that choice, it's just the handling in harder weather because of the lack of keel?

The car should be able to take at least 100 kg on the roof, but as you say it might be hard to lift with the water on it and everything. I don't think I would be able to lift someone who weighs 100 kg onto the roof, not even with a few peoples help...

So if I went for SIB, are there any good ways of inflating them quickly, or am I looking at still having it on the roof inflated if I use it quite often?
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I think why I'm klinging on to the RIB idea is of course one part that it's just cooler, and one part that I imagine the SIB smacking in to some rocks and sinking... That's what I see in my fantasy :o

I also forgot to ask, around what speeds are we talking in one of these boats (SIB or RIB) with 9,8 hp or a smaller 6 hp engine, with just one person in the boat?
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Now you need to think about PVC / PU / Hypalon questions...
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