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Old 09 May 2006, 18:15   #21
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Thanks for the reference. Have read it. I did not recommend drinking it, cooking with it sniffing or what ever. All solvents should be used in a well ventilated area or if not fume extraction used. It is just the lesser of multiple evils. My dirty socks are not recommended either. Regards.
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Old 10 May 2006, 15:00   #22
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Personally, I've found acetone to be a fairly slow solvent, certainly slower than either MEK or toluene. It also flashes off very quickly, and its vapor tends to be a bit on the explosive side of things. [edit: Not that the others aren't, but I've seen great demonstrations of acetone and combustion.]

MEK on a rag is how I do it; toluene is available in a few home and garden or hardware stores here, but nowhere near as available as MEK.

I think that for us non-ex-pat-Brits on this side of the pond, a bit of translation is in order:

Gun wash = ?
Fairy liquid = ?

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Gun wash is standard cellulose thinners mostly used for washing out and general cleaning of a spray gun and auto painting equipment.

Fairy liquid is a well known dish washing detergent. I was almost tempted to spin you a line on those two. Where's garFie?
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Gun wash is a mixture of solvents usually the main component is Toluene, although various other things such as Acetone, MEK, IPA and Ethyl Acetate are also added.

Celulose Thinners is also a mixture of solvents: Various alcohols, ketones and Toluene and Xylene.

JUST READ THE OLD MANOS POST JW REFERRED TO. There are some misleading statements in there that imply Toluene is more toxic when it is pure than when it is neat. THIS IS NOT THE CASE. All of these solvents are hazardous to health and must be used in a well ventalated space with appropriate PPE.
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Maybe partly because the facilities aren't good, basically if it breaks you fix it yourself or go without (same with many things) and storage/launching facilities are fairly limited.
I know a superb diesel mechanic who can fix and restore anything, he works for a company in Southampton but he's from the Falklands, It is amazing how resourcelful one can become when you have to!
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Toluene is more toxic when it is pure than when it is neat.
You've been sniffin the MEK again.
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As a hardened solvent junkie of many years standing, having started as a child when doping model aeroplane tissue, moving on to falling out through a garage door into a pile of tyres after spraying a car in a closed lockup and now being a styrene convert, I can tell you the one to watch out for is breathing 2K overspray without protection. That really does make you ill. The others are just fun.

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I know a superb diesel mechanic who can fix and restore anything, he works for a company in Southampton but he's from the Falklands, It is amazing how resourcelful one can become when you have to!
Who's that then? I probably know him!
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You've been sniffin the MEK again.
Possibly!

I should have said:

JUST READ THE OLD MANOS POST JW REFERRED TO. There are some misleading statements in there that imply Toluene is more toxic when it is pure than when it is mixed with other materials. THIS IS NOT THE CASE. All of these solvents are hazardous to health and must be used in a well ventalated space with appropriate PPE.

I'm not trying to put anyone off using these solvents - I just hope that people realise that they are just as harmful as "toluene" which everyone was worried about in the other post. And yes - if you don't want to end up like JW the advice is to use them in well ventalated spaces.
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And yes - if you don't want to end up like JW the advice is to use them in well ventalated spaces.


Would that be ventilated?
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