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Old 17 September 2015, 07:14   #1
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What Rib next (5-5.x m)

Ok, so here goes:

Current situation: I have an ace little Avon SR4, we use it for fishing on the North Sea, local blasts and plan to start wakeboarding (the girlfriend is getting up to speed on the helm). I keep this on a drying beach mooring within our village harbour. It's a mid/late nineties boat with a mid/late nineties PTT ELPTO Mercury 50 2 stroke.

Things about it that are great: It doesn't seem to use much fuel, can cope when the chop/sea builds, easy to get in and out of our mooring between the other fishing boats. Easy to launch/recover (although this is only once a year so not too much of a plus). The build quality seems good, engine reliable and minimum faff it's fun, fun, fun and goes quite well.

Things that aren't so great: It is still tight with two of us fishing on board. Taking any more than two adults in board is really for flat water only, and fishing with 3+ requires a synchronised ballet if landing any fish. The boat still seems to feel small when you're further out, limited console room for fixed vhf/GPS etc so we tend not to go whale watching. The jockey is a bit short/low when there's two in bigger seas/at speed even thoughwe're both reasonably trim.

The Future: So I'd like a slightly bigger Rib so longer trips are comfier two up, so fishing trips have more space for 3-4 up. Something that is still fun, nippyish (a good 35knots+ flat out in the right conditions), durable, sea worthy, and value for money. It would still need o do some basic skiing/wake boarding. It has to be under 6m for my mooring, and given most of the time it'll be two of us not too big/heavy on fuel when not needed, yet suitable for heading a little further off for whale watching, or some longer inshore crusing up to Northumberland or trailing to Scotland. Given likely budget of about 4.5-7k (SR4 sale + 2-4k depending on saving) my thoughts are currently:

SR5.4 with some form of 90ish two stroke
An older small Osprey (tube condition dependant)
An older Humber Destroyer/Ocean Pro
Delta Dash??

Any other suggestions on rib makes/models or issues (cost/suitability/etc.) with my above ideas? Power requirements for the individual boats/suggestions would be handy too. Basically I don't want a "slammy" leisure rib with shallow v, and guess I can't afford something like a bigger Ribcraft with 100+hp

BTW this would all be next summer at the earliest, so don't pm me with offers of boats for sale now!
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Old 17 September 2015, 15:56   #2
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I went from a 75hp ELPTO on a 5.2mtr boat to a 130hp fourstroke on a 6.5mtr boat. Virtually no difference in fuel consumption.....about a litre/mile (nautical)
Much as I am a fan of two strokes I've seen what an older 175hp Yam V6 could burn and it'd make your eyes water. Food for thought ?
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Old 17 September 2015, 17:47   #3
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Old 17 September 2015, 17:55   #4
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Won't go far wrong with a 5.4 SR or Delta Dash. Humber won't be so solid or have tunes that last as long, but hull is good in the water.
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Old 18 September 2015, 01:52   #5
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Thanks for the advice so far, 6m would be the max I'm allowed on my mooring. Liking the look of that Osprey. I didn't realise the Humbers weren't as solid.
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Old 18 September 2015, 03:28   #6
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What Rib next (5-5.x m)

More the fittings and tubes. the Seariders and Deltas have tubes that seem to last for decades, much longer than ribs built in the last 15yrs. the fittings on some Humbers, (the ones done by Humber at the factory, can be less "exact", even compared to some modern brands. They appear to be more mid market price and quality. Decent boats though, the ride is up there with the expensive brands. We've had Searider and Humber. Still got a 6.3 Ocean Pro. Very happy, but was not fitted by Humber. ;-)
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Old 18 September 2015, 04:30   #7
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Thanks for that, as for Delta Dash(es), what kind of power do they need to be fun, they seem to have a high bow, do they have a better or worse ride than a Searider?
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Old 18 September 2015, 04:47   #8
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Humbers are not as bad as suggested. They are built to a budget, but that is reflected in price and resale, so at the same price you get a newer boat than delta or Searider.

Like everything they last longer if you look after them properly. And inevitable heavier fabric, extra rubbing strake, wear patches etc mean your commercial spec boats will take more neglect.

Personally I think that for leisure use some of the ex commercial boats are over priced simply because they have a name people recognise on them or they were over priced to start with.

Oh and finally, if you are looking for a boat for four people to fish from thats value for money and less than 6m long I'd seriously consider forgetting about a rib and get something made for the job.
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Old 18 September 2015, 04:57   #9
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We've managed 4 fishing from the SR4 before, and as this will only be 2-3 times a year when people visit I'd prefer not to get a fishing boat for just these odd occasions, so I'm hoping a 5+m boat will have a bit more space.

Thanks for the Humber notes, I must admit when I've been on one before I thought it appeared a good boat, hence on my list. Are there any other sea worthy boats that should be on my radar in this price range?
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Old 18 September 2015, 04:58   #10
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Tim, you won't buy a decent 6m for 7k. It'll either be a 'project' or a lousy combination. Your budget would buy you a tidy SR5.4. My advice would be to buy a 5.4, it'll tick most of your boxes, run it for a couple of seasons and try a build a bit more of a pot should you wish to push on up the rib ladder.
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