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Old 22 January 2013, 15:19   #11
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Thanks for the replys

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Thanks for the replys

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Perfect choice - I used a Redbay 6.5m for Intermediate and Advanced courses for over 5 years and this boat has the necessary seating configuration and should be a doddle to get coded to meet the new RYA requirements.
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The Stormforce Redbay is a nice choice.

There is no single answer to your questions There are however a few questions you need to ask before you start.

1/. Where are you going to be operate? Just as someone buying a private boat will look at what is appropriate for their area, so do you. Different operating areas lend themselves to different boats.

2/. How are you going to operate? Are you going to berth in a marina or keep on a trailer and launch each course, clearly launching becomes more of an issue with bigger boats. Are you going to be teaching g youth groups or mainly adults? How available is fuel? Does you geographical location make filling a thirsty boat straight forward and so on

3/. What range of courses are you going to offer? I know you have already mentioned Advanced but I would recommend you business plan 2 options, one with advanced recognition and one without. One of my boats is 6m, uncoded and has no A frame and lights. In real terms it cant run advanced courses but saved about 6K at purchase. If you recognise that Advanced powerboat makes up less than 2% of the market place you have to ask yourself if investing so much money in it is the right call. Certainly having a Level 2 boat that you can afford to replace more often has some merits, you have to run an awful lot of courses to pay for the coding and extras.

4/. What is your budget? can you afford to go new? Your customers wont thank you for having a brilliant boat if it suffers engine problems and ruins their course. The advantages of a new/warranty engine are immense.

5/. What price point are you aiming to sell courses at. The bigger your boat, the higher your overheads and the more you will have to charge to make the courses viable.
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Doug, is there not a plan to continue rolling out coding of boats for intermediate and then PB2 courses under RYA? I agree coding is expensive as I can show on our training RIB.
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Not that I have heard of and I think very unlikely.
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Not that I have heard of and I think very unlikely.
How will that work then if they bring in intermediate as the first level u can get a commercial endorsement as we were told was coming from RYA
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How will that work then if they bring in intermediate as the first level u can get a commercial endorsement as we were told was coming from RYA
Well it currently works that you can commercially endorse the L2, so I am not sure what would need to change IF the Intermediate had a commercial endorsement option.

The recent amendments to powerboats used for training make allowance for intermediate courses that go to sea beyond cat 6 already.
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