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Old 03 February 2017, 06:09   #11
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I find they are too slow to be of any use with the loads and distances involved.

Towball mounted winches as you suggest only go upto about 2500lbs and then you need to get a bumper mounted job. I have the largest towbar winch they used to make, it may be more now but I'll let you check. even if you get 3500lbs now the limitation below still applies.

You are pulling a 6.5m boat that will be close to say 1300kg I guess including trailer so you are down at moving it 6-7ft a minute up what is likely a long slipway......you can do the maths how long it takes for your own slipway.

Most slipways even at high tide you are a couple of trailer lengths minimum to the flat, need to have more patience than me to winch that far.

If you think these will work for you then I'll sell you mine, used once
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Old 03 February 2017, 06:16   #12
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They are too slow to be of any use with the loads and distances involved.

Towball mounted winches as you suggest only go upto about 2500lbs and then you need to get a bumper mounted job. I have the largest towbar winch they used to make, it may be more now but I'll let you check. even if you get 3500lbs now the limitation below still applies.

You are pulling a 6.5m boat that will be close to say 1300kg I guess including trailer so you are down at moving it 5-6ft a minute up what is likely a long slipway......you do the maths how long it takes for your own slipway. You are pulling close to 100 amps to do it so you won't be doing it long or winch will get warm. Mines was quite warm after maybe 5 mins so had to let it cool a little.

If you think these will work for you then I'll sell you mine, used once


I think we've been through this before, you are confusing dead weight with rolling load. My combo weighs around 1500kg, but I can move it by hand. I don't need a 1500kg/3000lb winch to shift it. I once recovered a boat & trailer 100m off a beach, yeah it was slow, but still faster than the incoming tide, which is all that matters.
BTW, what's the winch & how much? I could be interested.
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Old 03 February 2017, 06:26   #13
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Not confusing dead weight with rolling load, it is sloooooow, I used it once and gave up after getting it halfway up the slip. I chalked it off and put a rope on it and winch has been in box since.

You are 2nd in queue to buy it, if that falls through I'll let you know.

It was a proper towbar winch kit I bought, I think it is this top one but it was a few years ago now so will check spec-

http://www.watling-towbars.co.uk/4x4_winches.html

Edit, yup it is that same kit I have.
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A winch may be slow but it's preferable to going nowhere or even worse the car ending up in the drink
Even if only used occasionally it could be a lifesaver
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Old 03 February 2017, 10:23   #15
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Car should be fine if you are at this stage, It is at the top of the slip on the end of the rope.

If you can't use the rope then of course you could go down winch route like I tried. YMMV from mine.
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You’ve got to laugh, OP wants advice on a certain spec / size of RIB and here we are ‘discussing’ slipways and winches, dead weights and rolling things………………….wake me up when we get back on topic
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OPs 3L Merc estate...... should do fine.
I never had any issue pulling my 6.5mtr up a slip with my old C220 No boot space for all my junk and piling it in the boat was going to push the trailer over the car's 1500Kg limit, that was the problem.
However the 6.5 mtr is rated at 1100Kg load but only for 7 people.
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You’ve got to laugh, OP wants advice on a certain spec / size of RIB and here we are ‘discussing’ slipways and winches, dead weights and rolling things………………….wake me up when we get back on topic


Actually, the OP did ask about the suitability of his current vehicle for towing/launching/recovering a bigger boat, even mooting a 4x4. In the big picture it's all pertinent. (IMHO naturally )
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Actually, the OP did ask about the suitability of his current vehicle for towing/launching/recovering a bigger boat, even mooting a 4x4. In the big picture it's all pertinent. (IMHO naturally )
You got to admit the tread started getting a bit of 'winch or not' willy waving
Bloke only wants to buy a bigger boat! Anyway, back on topic.......
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...i fear getting stuck on wet slipways…do I need a 4x4 with this size of boat?
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Bloke only wants to buy a bigger boat! Anyway, back on topic.......
The bloke seems to have concerns about slipways that winching may address (or not, IMO). I'm happy that the discussion remains focused enough - by RIBnet standards anyway. Now, if there was an argument about the direction the thread was taking, or what defined "willy waving", then I may feel moved to provide clarification.

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