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Old 22 January 2003, 04:09   #31
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If you are on a tight budget and can't afford a drysuit then a reasonable set of oilskins/foul weather waterproofs will do the job instead. They have been the mainstay of sailing club safety for years, not the best option.

Another idea for a cheep boat it an ex MOD 5.4m Searider. Not the flashist of boats and you've got to check them over well as some have seen some life, but were strong boats to begin with and have been looked after reasonably well. If you do a search on this site for Babcocks you'll get the link.
Boat £2K(VAT if UK), 1-1.5K Trailer + engine. If you can find a second hand fourstroke 60HP that should do the job. IF you are going to be trolling around looking at seals then its lots of going slow, so a fourstroke will be better than a squirter 2 stroke. IMHO
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Old 22 January 2003, 09:25   #32
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Jordan, Mercury were not part of OMC (now Beaufort Companies owned). Mercs are terrific race bred engines, but due to that I don't think they are the best for your apparent level of knowledge. (Now watch the postings fly!). Launching a beached 5+metre anything into rough water is hard. You are going to require your full crew and a severe amount of experience, (and if done regularly a few spare props) !
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Old 22 January 2003, 15:09   #33
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Guys guys guys calm down, forget about Katie and Manos friends in bikinis, I am trying hard here to get some advice,I know its hard to believe but girls do go out in ribs, we need to choose a rib as the boat we used to go out in , a large inflatable Zodiac, has really had its last outing, it leaks has patches and is sun bleached, three people could easily recover this from a beach, but for longer trips this is just not the boat,what is the difference between 2 and 4 stroke, does it matter, does anyone know if it is possible to re set the rubber fendering on the side of a rib, this is an issue with the 5.5 Tornado as it has come unstuck at the back of the rib, the rib has no patches on it and has not been antifouoed ever so this should help when we look it over at the weekend as the hull will be free from paint, and I do want to check the hull to ensure its sound, our budget may stretch to 10k euro ,not much I know, part savings part loan.we already have some equipment between the three or four of us who will undertake this research, lifejackets and flares, a handheld radio and my brother has large plastic tanks in his garage to double as fuel tanks if we need spare capicaty, stowage only, I have bought a waterfilled compass and a Garmin gps is on order from a shop in Dublin, deposit paid, stuff like that is okay to make decisions on but I value the pointers on the pitfalls of ribs ,The pic below is a 4 month old female seal pup taking a break Jordan
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Old 22 January 2003, 15:25   #34
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Four stroke more expensive to buy and heavier, less torque, but - a fraction of the running costs in fuel. Sticking strakes back on, no probs - you just need the correct glue for the material (which is usually hypalon or PVC based). The wrong glue doesn't b----r up the actual material - it just doesn' t stick. I still think you're entering a different league of problem in beaching and recovering RHIBs vs SIBs tho'.
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Old 22 January 2003, 16:36   #35
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if you know very little about boats / ribs , how on earth can you begin to start looking for one yourself

the simple answer is dont

If you are a genuine post and not a windup as suggested by many, simply inlist the help of a forum member who is based in Ireland to do so for you

Alternatively, lay your trust in one of the many experienced people here ( many of which will have contacts in the industry ) to help obtain a boat for you on your behalf

dont rush into buying something

Called me paranoid but I still think you may have some more convincing to do

Oh and 10k euro will be ample to buy a decent secondhand rib to suit your purposes, although the secondhand market may be not so widespread as over here

Come on then give us some more details of this seal project
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Old 22 January 2003, 16:50   #36
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I take it that the post is not a windup.
So, for Euro 10,000 you can buy many 2nd hand RIBs that are on the market
A 5 mtr AVON with a 70 BHP (2-stroke) comes in mind - about GBP 4,500.00.
Checking the hull: You need a meter to measure dampness in the hull. Also you need someone with experience to advise you because if there are any small cracks on the hull you will never notice.
While you examine the hull knock it with your fingers and check that the sound is uniform. But again you need someone who knows how it suppose to sound like.
My friendly advise Jordan and with no disrespect to you is take someone who knows about boats or RIBs with you otherwise you may just be giving your money away.
Good luck!!

PS: I think there are few people from the RIB Net that are based in Ireland. The names that come to mind is Gavin's and Scotty's. They may be able to help you locally
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Old 22 January 2003, 16:56   #37
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Beaching ribs etc.

Hi Jordan,
Beaching a rib and handling it in rough sea is very difficult. As an example, on one occasion, a larger than usual wave came up the beach and lifted our rib just above the average wave travel. We needed to wait for the next tide to free it - the following morning. Gluing boat fabrics is not difficult. Tornado boats are usually polyeurathane and this is said to be the most difficult of the 3 commonly used materials. Unfortunately, this is the one I have never glued but I wouldn’t be frightened of it, after all, Tornado do it in a normal workshop. These things are rarely as much of a problem as some would have you believe. Other methods of handling the rib at a beach are the running line and simply anchoring and and using a wee tender. You do get wet but if you’re in dry suits it not going to be too much of a problem. Is 5.5mts the maximum length of rib you would consider?
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Old 22 January 2003, 17:05   #38
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Check out this RIBNet link

http://www.rib.net/forsale.htm

There are plenty of RIBs for sale @ your price range.

On the photos all look very nice. But who knows.
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Old 23 January 2003, 05:01   #39
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Manos,
When you're inspecting a boat hull and you're "knocking it with your fingers" listening for a uniform sound, do you not think the "sound may change as you knock in the area of say, a bulkhead, frame, balsa or foam sandwich, stringer or other structural part of the boat?(with some boats maybe a old eggbox or some papier mashe that,s been glassed in for stiffness!)

You could have the poor girl (or wind up merchant) pulling thier hair out, tapping away with it sounding like a zylaphone!

Kind regards, Jon Fuller
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Old 23 January 2003, 05:24   #40
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Hi Jordan

Below is a Rib for sale on this site. This would be a perfect Ribs for you, they are good sea boats and this one is set up with twin engines for safety etc and its in your budget.


Ribtec 6m
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£7,495

1996 6m Ribtec, coded for hire in the Solent so full of gear! 100 litre fuel tank. Twin 60 hp Mariners. Big A-frame with all add ons, with Garmin f/f and VHF. Re ad due to let down hence cheap sale price

Contact Paul Manser on 07798 730505 or email paul_manser@yahoo.com
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