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Old 29 July 2014, 15:59   #1
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What boat to buy?

Hi everyone,

I'm new to boating. Bought an inflatable boat last year. The idea was to go out on the sea and although this is possible, it's not very practical due to the low speed I can go when the sea is anything other than calm.

I'm already thinking to change it as it is not quite what I wanted.

Would anyone please be so kind and advise me of what would be the boat to buy?

The requirements are:
- boat + engine on the trailer should fit in the garage (5m x 2.1m)
- should be able to comfortably ride slight/moderate sea at 20-25 knots
- be capable of carrying 2-3 adults plus some luggage (fishing gear)
- be able to go offshore up to 20-25 miles
- optional be able to take two smaller engines rather than a big one for redundancy.

Obviously price and fuel economy are an important factor as well.

Note: I use the boat in the Solent, Chichester/Selsey area.

Thanks a lot.

Regards,
Nic
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Old 29 July 2014, 16:36   #2
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SR4 + 40hp 2 stroke?
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Old 29 July 2014, 16:41   #3
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I've heard good things about SR4, but I don't believe you can buy it brand new or fairly new. As I haven't got much experience I'd rather like to buy a newish one than a 15-20 years old one.
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SR4 +50hp 2 stroke =
I had one with a Evinrude 50, fantastic combination and we had hours and hours of fun with ours.
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Old 29 July 2014, 16:54   #5
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Hi everyone,

I'm new to boating. Bought an inflatable boat last year. The idea was to go out on the sea and although this is possible, it's not very practical due to the low speed I can go when the sea is anything other than calm.
What sort of hull have you got on your SIB?
What does "other than calm" mean to other people...
Someone will be along to say you should be able to use your SIB in rougher weather than you are managing...

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I'm already thinking to change it as it is not quite what I wanted.

Would anyone please be so kind and advise me of what would be the boat to buy?
OMG! The rib.net possie will all be along to tell you to buy whatever boat they own...

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The requirements are:
- boat + engine on the trailer should fit in the garage (5m x 2.1m)
So you are going to need to take into account that the trailer is longer than the boat because of the draw bar...

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- should be able to comfortably ride slight/moderate sea at 20-25 knots
Define comfortable. Moderate sea state is Wave height of 1.25 to 2.5m. 2.5m is the height of a door! Thats a fairly lumpy sea..
If you want really comfortable you need suspension seats... for 3 people on a <5m rib... ??
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- be capable of carrying 2-3 adults plus some luggage (fishing gear)
Are the 3 adults on the 25mile off shore passage in a sea state > 2m (i.e. really need a seat)? Or are 3 adults going round to the next bag at slow speeds and can sit on tubes?
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- be able to go offshore up to 20-25 miles
Where? Channel vs Atlantic vs North Sea all a bit different...
Solent doesn't have 25m of offshore...?
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- optional be able to take two smaller engines rather than a big one for redundancy.
On a < 2.1m transom to fit in a garage?
You know 2 x 40HP does not equal 80HP of output? You know it also equals 2 x40HP of fuel which is more fuel consumption than 1 x 80. So you might find 2 x 40 gives the same as running 1 x 60 of geegee but consumption more like a 100HP. The concept of dual engine sounds logical. BUT unless you run seperate fuel systems, seperate batteries (on a <5m boat?) you still have combined points of failure. A small get you home aux would be better and people do manage to squeeze small 2.5hp on searider transoms..

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Obviously price and fuel economy are an important factor as well.
New? Second Hand?
Fuel system? 2 smoke less economical but lighter. 4 smoke quieter but heavier so needs more power to get going...
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Old 29 July 2014, 16:57   #6
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I've heard good things about SR4, but I don't believe you can buy it brand new or fairly new. As I haven't got much experience I'd rather like to buy a newish one than a 15-20 years old one.
Why? New = massive depreciation. Old = change your mind minimal loss?

However worth taking a look at the X-Pro or highfield ranges? 4.8m Highfields did well on the RI2013 but I suspect that doesn't quite fit the garage. X-Pro option of aluminium hull (lighter = less fuel / smaller engine) - 4.2m has done some Channel Crossings etc, would imagine would fit the garage...
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You can buy seariders new, they are just very expensive. I think Matt H knows the figures as I recall him saying he asked for a quote??
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roughly 6800 for a new one with basic consol no trailer etc etc plus SR4 not so ideal for 3 adults and luggage and distances you mentioned
Whats your budget??
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Hi everyone,

I'm new to boating. Bought an inflatable boat last year. The idea was to go out on the sea and although this is possible, it's not very practical due to the low speed I can go when the sea is anything other than calm.

I'm already thinking to change it as it is not quite what I wanted.

Would anyone please be so kind and advise me of what would be the boat to buy?

The requirements are:
- boat + engine on the trailer should fit in the garage (5m x 2.1m)
- should be able to comfortably ride slight/moderate sea at 20-25 knots
- be capable of carrying 2-3 adults plus some luggage (fishing gear)
- be able to go offshore up to 20-25 miles
- optional be able to take two smaller engines rather than a big one for redundancy.

Obviously price and fuel economy are an important factor as well.

Note: I use the boat in the Solent, Chichester/Selsey area.

Thanks a lot.

Regards,
Nic
You're making a heck of a jump - going from a cheap 3m Chinese SIB to wanting to go out responsable for two other adults in moderate (rough by anyone's standards once you get out in it in a little RIB) seas at 25 kts.

And 25 miles offshore?!!

Might be worth doing PB2 or similar and trying a few options before making another unsuitable purchase.
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Dude. Buy an SR4. A 15-20 year old good SR4 will outlast a lot of the new boats today, without a massive depreciation hit. It's the very best boat that'll fit in your garage on a trailer.

Then figure out what you can do with it. 25 miles offshore is unrealistic.
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