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Old 09 September 2004, 16:15   #21
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50 M of weighted line = 11.6 Kgs great if you are say 15M of water!
But what if you are in say 2 M off a crowded beach!
you are going to kneed a lot of line out to get any weight from it!
5 M of chain straight on to the painter would be better!
Where do you normally anchor?
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Old 09 September 2004, 17:05   #22
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I'd say you're being extraordinarily cautious considering you don't have a RIB
Good one Phil Cod seems to have gone to find a prawn

Any way, seriously now I remember having discussed this topic sometime ago, for what it worths for our 640SR Falcons we use 10mtr chain and 30 mtr rope and a folding 6kg anchor. We also have a spare folding 4kg anchore with 5mtr chain and 15 mtr rope.

For my 700RSR Falcon I use 20 mtr chain and 35 mtr rope and a folding 8kg anchor.

Remember is the chain that holds the boat and not the anchor.
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Has anyone else seen/used these? The appeal to me is the lack of pointy bits.. But that could also be a disadvantage when it's trying to grip..
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Yes Keith had mentioned those before. I was reading in a US forum and appareently are quite good for muddy bottoms but useless in rocky areas.
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When we lived near the Red Sea the local fishermen used to use concrete paving slabs! There weren't many strong currents or tides and the bottom was all coral reef so an anchor wouldn't last long!

I suppose any old weight would do if you just want to stop to fish or laze in the sun - not a good idea to fall asleep though!!!
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I'd say you're being extraordinarily cautious considering you don't have a RIB

Hopefully not for much longer!!!

Actually the Danforth was bought long before I thought of getting a RIB - and has been used a few times - as a ground anchor in bogs when there are no trees around!!!
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Old 09 September 2004, 19:39   #27
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When we lived near the Red Sea the local fishermen used to use concrete paving slabs! There weren't many strong currents or tides and the bottom was all coral reef so an anchor wouldn't last long!
And since it happens that we have an office in Ain Sukhna (I hope you know where that is) and we deal with many boat owners including fisherman I would like to advise you that this type of anchoring use to happen quite a few years back (may be 15-20). As of 1985 a lot has been done about the protection of the coral reefs and there are specific anchoring points. If a 'local' fisherman is found to anchor any where else excpet the anchroing points there is a heafty fine and can lead up to the confiscation of the boat and tackle. Any way is not allowed to fish by the coral reefs but only to dive them.
And by the way, THRE ARE A LOT OF STRONG CURRENTS in the Red Sea
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And since it happens that we have an office in Ain Sukhna (I hope you know where that is) and we deal with many boat owners including fisherman I would like to advise you that this type of anchoring use to happen quite a few years back (may be 15-20). As of 1985 a lot has been done about the protection of the coral reefs and there are specific anchoring points. If a 'local' fisherman is found to anchor any where else excpet the anchroing points there is a heafty fine and can lead up to the confiscation of the boat and tackle. Any way is not allowed to fish by the coral reefs but only to dive them.
And by the way, THRE ARE A LOT OF STRONG CURRENTS in the Red Sea
Things aren't quite so organised in Yemen! Thought it would be pretty obvious that nobody would use such an anchor unless it was in a sheltered bay!
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Remember is the chain that holds the boat and not the anchor.
So we do not knead a anchor just chain!
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OK Nick may be I didn't expressed right.

You need the anchor for having something for the boat to hold on and for the cahin + rope to go as fast as poss in the bottom. But the chain is the important thing when you have rough or not so rough seas.
If you say got a danforth it digs in the sand or if you have a folding it catched on rocks but if you have a short chain the boat lifts the anchor out if is in the sand and if is rough it will brake the folding if if is stuck on the rocks. Therefore, you need a long chain to act as a shock absorber I suppose and avoid dragging or braking your anchor.
I b@#$ difficult to explain this in English or in any other language (you need to see it in the water to understand it) but I think you get the idea
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OK Nick may be I didn't expressed right.

You need the anchor for having something for the boat to hold on and for the cahin + rope to go as fast as poss in the bottom. But the chain is the important thing when you have rough or not so rough seas.
If you say got a danforth it digs in the sand or if you have a folding it catched on rocks but if you have a short chain the boat lifts the anchor out if is in the sand and if is rough it will brake the folding if if is stuck on the rocks. Therefore, you need a long chain to act as a shock absorber I suppose and avoid dragging or braking your anchor.
I b@#$ difficult to explain this in English or in any other language (you need to see it in the water to understand it) but I think you get the idea
Manos I was only pulling your leg!
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