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Old 07 December 2009, 12:32   #111
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4. Been members of Sea Start - allowing us to moor up and wait for the breakdown service whilst not placing other people or ourselves a risk.



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My feeling exactly !

Sorry - I didn't meant to start a debate about Aux / no Aux etc , but my thinking is Seastart is £145 for me compared to the cost of a decent Aux of at least several hundred.

Seastart will turn up while I'm still on my mooring , if I'm at sea will turn up a big(ish) powerful boat that has gear , knowledge & if needed a tow line.

If the engine stops I am (usually) in water that will allow me to anchor & wait - if its too rough for that then the RNLI get the call & shoudl not be out anyway !

I used to sail over the Chichester bar and it can be a right sod ( thats a technical sailing term) - but hey so can Mudeford in a RIB !

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Old 07 December 2009, 12:40   #112
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Let us not obsess about Chi Bar, knot yet is trailer launched and while Chi is handy it is not the best access to the Solent.
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Old 07 December 2009, 13:23   #113
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3. Made for the nearest safe haven and asked Darren's Dad to collect us, returned to the trailer and then collected the RIB. - So angry at myself for this oversight!!
In my opinion yes. Unless of course you could put your finger on the exact cause of the engine stalling first time around. If for example the fuel tank wasn't vented, you could put that down to a simple error, restart the engine and continue. But if you're at a loss as to why it's not working you have to make an informed judgement, based on your own experience, weather conditions, distances you're wishing to cover, number of boats in area, etc.

The only reason I fitted an auxilliary (although Zodiac don't recommend one on the Pro 7) is the boat is used in the Moray Firth and west coast of Lewis (Atlantic), both fairly inhospitable areas and there are some days when we never see another boat. I got the usual ''it can't be done'', but pressed ahead, custom fitted a Plastimo stainless-steel bracket and then found the smallest width outboard (Tohatsu 3.5hp - only 17kg), so the main engine wouldn't knock it on full turn. It's not a perfect set-up, but it's given me peace of mind. That's my tuppence worth!
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Old 07 December 2009, 13:55   #114
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Video!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Put a bit of video on Youtube - it seems a bit small but that might be because its in HD or I've no idea what I'm doing

It's very boring (unless you were there in which case it is nowhere near exciting enough) and the music is terrible - so I hope you really enjoy it



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Well girlie, I'm impressed. First major cruise, fairly new rig (to you), unsure of the boats capabilities and your own (from what I read), and unfamiliar launching area (I assume), and you still find time and presence of mind to video it That takes real b___s, even if you weren't actually holding the camera
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Once again thanks for all the replies and pictures - very useful

I was only joking re the RIBnet court comment - and I think frank debate on how to improve/avoid such an adventure again is very important - good point re others also benefiting as I forget I'm not the only novice

Bedajim - how does you aux fit to the A-frame - looks like the solution we are after - do you need to drop it down in order for it to work and how does it steer?

Polwart - whoops I meant 6knots not 6hp - again my lack of experience means I had no idea different sized propellers and engines make a difference to the speed attained at the same horse power (if that makes sense)

Jambo - did you decide not to use your aux as your mate was nearer and a better option or had that also failed?

Pete - I do like the idea of Sea Start and having read through all of this I think my belt and braces approach will be kicking in - aux and Sea Start - we already have an aux so no need to splash out on the extra engine but £145 for breakdown cover just sounds a real blessing

Malthouse - absolutely there are plenty of other places to launch - we naively launched at Chichester as the launch and recovery is really easy, lovely and flat, lots of space, no strong tide, blah blah blah and it's the closest point to home - as an aside - regardless of weather where is the best place to launch for Solent access - as we haven't yet found it

Spartacus - I don''t think we could fit our aux next to the main outboard - can you still steer you aux okay

Ian - lol - the video was the easy bit - just press record - shame boating doesn't have the same level of simplicity - but then would it be as fun !!

Thanks again to everyone

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Hi Jean I use the aux to get me nearer the shore and safer waters, but also towards my mate who was coming from the direction I was ultimately aiming for or home port!
Lucky it all ended well and instead of having lunch on Gigha we had to settle for late lunch back at Tayvallich.

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Bedajim - how does you aux fit to the A-frame - looks like the solution we are after - do you need to drop it down in order for it to work and how does it steer?

- regardless of weather where is the best place to launch for Solent access - as we haven't yet found it

The Aux was fitted using pipe clamps to the Aframe and you used the main to steer like a rudder. Yes it went up and down and was tied up with straps + outboard bracket

We normally use Calshot to launch in Southampton

Plenty of room for parking
Toilets
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Big slipway + small one when the tide it in
Right on the end of Southampton water

Downside no Pontoon + a few Jet skiís at the weekends
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... regardless of weather where is the best place to launch for Solent access - as we haven't yet found it.
Have a look at Boat Launch, if you have not already got the book:

http://www.boatlaunch.co.uk/

There are so many choices around the Solent that I doubt there is a single best spot, it all depends where you are heading and far you want to drive on any given day.

Launching at the top of Chi Harbour, or up one of the rivers means you then have a slow potter to get to open water - some days it might be better to drive an extra 20 minutes and be straight out. Other days the potter and shelter might be an advantage.

As has already been mentioned - if you do use an aux then it is generally easier to use the main engine as a rudder and keep steering from the wheel. That way the aux engine can be fixed in place with only a need to tilt and or rise/fall on it's bracket.
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Spartacus - I don't think we could fit our aux next to the main outboard - can you still steer you aux okay
The main engine can still turn hard lock to hard lock without touching the auxilliary. Regards steering, it's not important that you can obtain full steering lock on the auxilliary, rather general propulsion in a forward or reverse direction. The auxilliary can be fixed straight, and use the main engine to steer as a rudder. For more precise handling you would need to steer with the auxilliary.
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