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Old 13 August 2002, 15:12   #11
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I'm interested too, never done a crossing, which is silly since it's only 30 miles from here! Weekdays are fine since i work most weekends too!

My friend has a 7m, with an Optimax 150 and will almost certianly be up for it too - we were talking about doing a crossing soon, but more than interested in swelling the numbers on the trip. My BWM has a 130 Yam (as it says on the left <---), so we can keep up, but will be looking to buy fuel in france - so need to pick a port with petrol!

Would you be thinking about coming down this way - dover / ramsgate? I know all the local launch sites, and my friends RIB is kept in Ramsgate marina...

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Old 13 August 2002, 18:23   #12
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Many thanks all.......

Some dates are beginning to materialize for a mid week Cherbourg trip in September. Perhaps we can get a good few going across? Watch this space for that.

Daniel, Yes defiantly do a trip to Boulogne. Free mooring for lunch. Not sure about petrol though. I always used to take enough for a return trip in my old boat. I have done the trip many times, always using the exciting Dover Slip. (One slip and you're off it)

Could defiantly do a day trip in my new boat sometime and I'll contact you when I do, but aiming for a 2 day-er to Cherbourg first. I'm sure the weather won't allow it though!

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Old 14 August 2002, 17:47   #13
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OK,

Here's the plot! Graeme Couper, (TOPAZ), and I are planning a trip to Cherbourg, probably from Poole, out on the 24th September and return on the 25th September, (Tuesday & Wednesday).
Anyone interested?

Cherbourg is about 65 N Miles from Poole and has very good berthing with petrol or diesel available at the Quay. There's also lots of hotels and restaurants.

Make a note here or e-mail mrcarson@lineone.net if interested!
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Old 15 August 2002, 05:14   #14
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Hi Mike,
You seem to know your stuff and i was hoping for some advice. I'm currently in the process ov trying to buy my first rib that i want to use as a family cruiser, there are 6 in my family. Im hoping to do Cross Channel when i'm up to a decent standard but not straight away. I've got a budget ov about 10 thousand, is that enough for a decent second hand boat? I'm based in Gloucester so wonder where the nearest clubs or decent stretches ov water are for me? Thanks for any advice,
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Old 15 August 2002, 07:05   #15
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At the risk of butting in here.....
You are looking to cross the channel.
You have a family of 6.
My first thoughts are:
You need to look for a boat of 7m plus. Because I would like to see all family members seated and preferably on jockey seats not a bench seat.
You will therefore need 100hp plus engine, AND a plotter, a compass and a VHF as a minimum (never mind the rest of the safety gear, flares, 6 lifejackets, 6 drysuits, anchor, fenders, trailer, etcetcetc).
This combo, even 2nd hand is likely to exceed your planned budget.
So either start small, learn, leave the family behind and postpone cross-channel till later, or............up your budget.
But DO join us....it's GREAT FUN !!!
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Old 15 August 2002, 11:27   #16
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Thanks for the advice Brian. I think i'll lower my sights slightly as you suggest. I don't think the wife would be too keen on a long crossing yet anyway, she's the sensible one! What size boat and engine is needed for a Channel Crossing? How long does it take and would my budget buy me a good enough Rib with a smaller crew? I'm talking 3 adults.......I might leave the kids on dry land till i know what i'm doing!!!!
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Old 15 August 2002, 14:59   #17
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I know some people who I wouldn't trust to cross the channel in a 10m twin 300hp engined Scorpion. I know some (like the Harbour Master at Alderney) who has crossed in a 4m inflatable in a Force 8 at night-no problem.
It depends, doesnt it?
Maybe there is another approach to your dilema.
Before putting your hand in your pocket and making a decision you may regret, why don't you go out with a few people, in diferent boats and just try it?
If you come to Torquay I will take you out (for nothing but the pleasure of your company. Many people on this forum, I am sure will make you similar offers.
It is also a good idea to go and get some professional training-there are a number of Powerboat schools around who charge from £150 per day (one on one training!!!!) who will teach you LOTS.
When you have done a bit of this you will a) know lot more and b) have built up a group of mates who have YOUR interests at heart and whom you can lean on for advice.
Come on guys-let's make Spud a member of our community-any other offers?
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Old 15 August 2002, 15:28   #18
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any other offers...

I certainly can't match the quality of Brian's offer (Spud, his RIB is an absolute beauty!!!) but I can match the spirit of it - you'd be welcome on PepperII for a buzz round Poole Harbour, to experience bargain basement boating... but I couldn't hold a candle to the experience of Brian and other contributors to this forum.

Over the last twelve months I've done three different courses with RYA accredited powerboat schools and they're great fun - not a chore at all. I think some of the guys on the forum are also instructors.

Anyway, you need to get out there - find out how BUMPY RIB-ing is!
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Old 15 August 2002, 15:43   #19
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Ref the above,

I'd agree..... I think my old Ribcraft 5.85, which was a superb boat with twin engines is about the smallest for a Channel crossing and that had only four seats. Iíve just sold that, (6 years old), for £11,450 which by all accounts was a bit cheap, even at that age! My new 6.3 has seating for 7 if you count the engine lid but 2 of those seats are forward of the console and not much use in rough weather. You need good jockey seats for all in anything more than calm .... and if you're Channel crossing, sooner or later, you WILL encounter horrible stuff that you don't want to be in, no matter how much you look at the weather forecast. Quite often I've been caught out and glad the RIB could take it.... but wished it would do it on its own without me having to be there!
DO get your Powerboat Level 2 as a minimum, Youíll need it to get your ICC - International Certificate of Competence - from the RYA. That document is needed in France, (though no-one has ever asked me to see it!). Also I recommend you do the RYA Day Skipper shore based course. This is a six-month evening course, which covers all the basics of everything you should know from knots to tides and rules of the road!
If you want to drop me an e-mail, I will be glad to offer a trip across channel in my boat, (2 seats spare), perhaps for this September trip.... or when Graeme Couper gets back from holiday, he may contact you as he lives your way! Persevere though, its worth it!

SEPTEMBER TRIP
One more thought on this.... I'm hoping it will be a family trip, (OK I'm taking the wife), which means it will have to be calm or she'll hit me.... So, if itís rough we may go somewhere else. How about the East coast if its a strong westerly.... or Wales if it's a strong easterly?! And just a thought.... I may be free on the 3rd & 4th September. Not the best date for me but if the weather is like it has been over the last few days, in the words of Capt. Pickard, I'll "make it so"! Can anyone else?

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Mike, if you decide for a plan B on the East Coast let me know and I'll help out with suggested trips, launch points etc. Wont be coming with you as I completely shagged my back last weekend (despite it being calm) and am not going to risk it again until I know whats wrong and that its fixed!

Spud, Good advice from all here. I just sold a 6.5m for your budget so you can get a cross channel capable rib for 10k. Better to start off with a decent rig and get some experience before striking out for the deep blue. (its amazing how much smaller a boat feels when you are out of sight of land!). Take up one of the offers here to go cruising - you'll learn lots and get to see different types of RIB. You could also join BIBOA and volunteer to crew on on of the cruises. email or pm me for details.

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