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Old 02 November 2007, 21:43   #21
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I can understand using a lock on a small outboard like a 15hp but surely if they have the ability to take a 250hp away a few locks won't stop them? I suspect the insurance company data is mainly for the smaller engines.
I agree - but play the game = not your loss even if they chop up the boat to get the engine OR don't play along with the insurance company requirements = take the risk yourself. If you can afford a new engine then great - but otherwise stick the lock on it and hope it puts the buggers off, and if not at least its not at least you can argue your case with the insurers.
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Old 02 November 2007, 23:12   #22
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its a bit like forgetting to lock your car. Who would admit that to the insurance company .

Yes there was a lock on there , the thieves must have cut it off is all most people would say .

However it is a wriggle point for the insurance .

Bit like the horrible alarm on my motorbike , the common cause of breakdown but the insurance say i must have one although nobody ever takes any notic e of alarms.
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Old 02 November 2007, 23:34   #23
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I agree - but play the game = not your loss even if they chop up the boat to get the engine OR don't play along with the insurance company requirements = take the risk yourself. If you can afford a new engine then great - but otherwise stick the lock on it and hope it puts the buggers off, and if not at least its not at least you can argue your case with the insurers.
I'm with that,.... if you dont do it.... you just play into their hands sadly, so keep your premium safe and fit something
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Old 02 November 2007, 23:38   #24
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Roy you may find your policy says that the boat needs to be chained to the pontoons?.
No mine says as long as you tell the insurance company the boat is in the marina
you are covered, any way MDL at northney wont let you chain your boat to the pontoon Fire regs the man said.
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Old 02 November 2007, 23:45   #25
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I've got one of these-far simpler. Same principle as a locking wheelnut. A lot cheaper than the Volcano too.
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Old 03 November 2007, 00:14   #26
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I've got one of these-far simpler. Same principle as a locking wheelnut. A lot cheaper than the Volcano too.

That looks far better to me . the simple solutions are always the best.



I think the suzuki one is just packaged for suzuki
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Going to try and take mine off later been oiling it for a couple of days
Well it's not moved after 3 weeks so going for the disc cutter at the weekend
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Old 03 December 2007, 21:45   #28
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Well it's not moved after 3 weeks so going for the disc cutter at the weekend
Have fun . Cut well down the cone to get below the groove that the balls lock into .

I did wonder if you put a wedge behind it it may just jamb the nut head so you can turn the nut off, depends how tight your nut is
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Old 04 December 2007, 07:09   #29
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Have fun . Cut well down the cone to get below the groove that the balls lock into .

I did wonder if you put a wedge behind it it may just jamb the nut head so you can turn the nut off, depends how tight your nut is
Looking at it this morning I may try to cut/drill the head off the bolt
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Old 04 December 2007, 19:37   #30
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Looking at it this morning I may try to cut/drill the head off the bolt

Mine was fitted with the nut on the motor side , a nut splitter may do the job if you can get it on there .
I considered the nut and bolt worth more than the poxy lock and I didn't want to damage the paint on the motor .

Worst part was all the rusting filings that get on the boat, despite covering it up.
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I would agree with the small engine / opportunist arguments - it's not like someone is going to nick your 100+Hp engine on a whim - it's not like you can just chuck it in the back of a car in a couple of minutes - whether you have a chainsaw concealed in your back pocket or not!

Like all "security" measures all you're doing is putting off the opportunist. If they have their sights on your engine / car / plasma TV, they'll take it. I was amusingly reccommensded by my house insurance peeps a few years ago not to bother fitting an alarm, simply because if I were out in the back garden for 5 mins and someone nicked my telly, I wouldn't be covered because the alarm wasn't on! No alarm made about a £2 a year difference to the contents premium!

But yes, I do agree you have to give your insurance co as few excuses as possible for not paying out! My old boat was on 3rd party only - I reckoned 3 years of fully comp premiums and I'd have given them enough to replace it if it got nicked! Admittedly it's value would probably (just) pay for a tank of fuel for some of you.........
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Old 29 December 2007, 15:36   #32
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I Greased and oiled my Volcano lock a couple of times during the summer months, I also cleaned it at the end of the season before storing the boat in a nice warm & dry garage. Just had a quick look at the lock now....yeah you gessed it, its siezed tighter than my wallet on a day out with the kids Its not a year old yet.
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Old 29 December 2007, 16:46   #33
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Oh that reminds me I have to send the remains of mine back for a relacement with another model . What with getting ready for Xmas and the Taxman I had forgotten to send it off.

Recieved this email from them

If you send us back what you have of the Volcano we will exchange it for the Med for you.
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Please remember to enclose your address!
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After soaking my volcano lock with various anti seize agents over the last couple of weeks and then giving it a little fine hammer therapy, I have now finally managed to free the lock in one piece, It now means that I will be lubing the lock after nearly every outing.

An extreme idea I know but has anybody welded the mounting nut to the inside of the Volcano housing unit, so that it basically screws on? I know that this will make it totally less secure, but it will still be visibly the same and should act as a deterrent.
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Old 06 January 2008, 21:43   #35
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I wouldn't-it'll be possible to undo it with a set of stilsons if you weld it on. It's the 1st thing a thief will try if he's not going to chainsaw the transom off.
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