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Old 12 January 2015, 08:30   #11
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As far as Ofcom are concerned you apply for the free ship portable licence. This makes your handheld VHF legal to own and use.

The conditions of the licence state that it may then be used without further qualification on channels M1 & M2, or on the international channels in case of emergency.

As has been said, in order to routinely operate on other channels one needs to hold an operators' certificate or be supervised by someone who holds one.

If you only operate your handhelds on M1 & M2 then you don't require an operators' certificate.

I can't promise what anyone at the RYA will tell you, but that's what Ofcom say, and after all they 'own' the licensing.

*I'm new to boating, but old hat with radio comms.
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I take it your club has a Coastal Radio Station Licence - if it does it covers all the radios on the site / operated by club.

But only m & m 2 and ch. 80 (duplex).

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A Coastal Licence only covers other vessels if they are operating on a private channel.
Even with a Coastal Licence, if you're operating on Ch 80 (an international channel) you require an individual Ship or Ship Portable licence for each radio and the requirement for an Operators' Certificate (or to be supervised by someone who has one) still remains.
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yes - m & m2 are you only non operators licence !

Ch 80 is a "grown" up channel and needs operators licence.

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Thanks for all the useful input. I will ask Ofcom to confirm everything in writing, but from what is being said here, it sounds as though we are covered. I will report back once I actually have it from the horses mouth.
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Your Coastal Licence may not cover 'full channel' mobiles. The details are sketchy for CSR (Marina) licences because I can't find the specific terms online; but for example a CSR (UK) wouldn't cover them.

What I have found hints that a 'full channel' set would require it's own licence, whereas a 'private channels only' would be covered.
(This is certainly the case for CSR (UK) licences)

The worst case scenario is you may need to spend a bit of time online to apply for individual ship portable licences for them.
At least there's no financial cost.

Either way, you won't require an operators' certificate for M & M2.
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VHF License for handheld.

Your radios each require a ships portable license.
It used to be the case that if you only operated on private channels with out an operators license then you needed to have all the other channels programmed out so it couldn't be used on grown up channels by people without a license. Not sure if this is still the case but in reality as long as you stick to the private channels you should be ok.
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Extracted from:

Ofcom | What type of Maritime Licence do I need?

Coastal Station Radio (Marina)
This licence is available to those who operate sailing or yacht clubs, marinas and similar organisations and covers communication concerning the movement and berthing of pleasure crafts and the control of races.

Three channels are available.
Channels M and M2 (157.850 and 161.425 MHz) are simplex channels. As these channels are not international channels, users need not hold a Maritime Radio Operators' Certificate of Competence and Authority to Operate
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Channel 80 is a duplex channel (157.025MHz to transmit on ship, 161.625MHz to transmit on coastal station). Channel 80 is an international channel and its use must be by, or under the supervision of a holder of a Maritime Radio Operator's Certificate and Authority to Operate.

If you wish to transmit from a ship on Channel 80, you must be covered by a Ship Radio Licence or Ship Portable Radio Licence and hold a Maritime Radio Operators Certificate (or be under the direct supervision of someone who does).
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Ofcom | What type of Maritime Licence do I need?

Coastal Station Radio (Marina)
This licence is available to those who operate sailing or yacht clubs, marinas and similar organisations and covers communication concerning the movement and berthing of pleasure crafts and the control of races.



Three channels are available.
Channels M and M2 (157.850 and 161.425 MHz) are simplex channels. As these channels are not international channels, users need not hold a Maritime Radio Operators' Certificate of Competence and Authority to Operate
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Channel 80 is a duplex channel (157.025MHz to transmit on ship, 161.625MHz to transmit on coastal station). Channel 80 is an international channel and its use must be by, or under the supervision of a holder of a Maritime Radio Operator's Certificate and Authority to Operate.

If you wish to transmit from a ship on Channel 80, you must be covered by a Ship Radio Licence or Ship Portable Radio Licence and hold a Maritime Radio Operators Certificate (or be under the direct supervision of someone who does).
That all seems fairly clear! Thank you for posting this.
I just did a search on the Ofcom website using your link and it still didn't show up in a search!
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no problem - I did all the licensing for my old sailing club ! and SRC Assessor and Geek!

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