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Old 22 August 2016, 16:23   #21
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Are there any public statistics on rib based incidents? I guess the RNLI / MAIB must have an idea. Heart Attacks I would imagine. Market for a VHF/defibrillator combo?
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Old 22 August 2016, 16:28   #22
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Vhf hand held vs fixed.

If you flip in rough cold weather (rather than driving like a twat in the bay in August), the odds are a) you won't be able to get to the boat in your wet weather gear and the cold and b) you wouldn't want to go under it even if you could! There'll be crap everywhere and lifelines to catch and trap you, aside from the fact you'll have 1/2 to 1.5 ton of weight bouncing around in the waves to knock you out!

A HH vhf will likely have smashed off you unless tethered. But worth having if you can.

A PLB tethered to you is ideal or at least a phone in a waterproof bag is a good idea if inshore.

Reading the Round Ireland thread of the SR Ribnet member who ejected crossing the Irish Sea is a great read and VERY enlightening! (poly or Willk will find it).

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Old 22 August 2016, 16:46   #23
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Vhf hand held vs fixed.

What about a ruggedized box bolted on that hangs off the back of the transom.
No need to swim under just bolted right there's
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Our Epirbs have to be within reach of the stealing console. Plb's aren't considered part of safety equipment on boats over here, only Epirbs which have to be on any boat venturing more than 2 nm offshore by law.

Plb's are used on land for mountain climbing and wilderness trails where they can be placed on the ground next to an injured person etc. Where Epirbs float in an upright position and have much longer battery's. If you fall unconscious in the water a plb is useless.

If you end up in the water the last thing you want to be doing is trying to keep a plb the right way up when you are trying to keep the rest of the crew close together for warmth and survival.

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Old 22 August 2016, 18:54   #25
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I think the OP has and a lot of valuable replies to draw from.
IMO - I would be going to sea with a fixed VHF,
and a handheld vhf PLUS a PLB both firmly attached to me.
I would also carry another way of raising a fuss, maybe mini flares,
or a mobile phone in a waterproof pouch,
something small that gives you a little more added "shout".
If you come out of the boat or the boat flips at some speed,
stuff thats in the boat and not attached to you is going to be used first,
so I would say - make sure whatever that is - will get you rescued in the
location your boating in.
Yep - the good safety stuff is expensive, but floating in the sea
a few miles offshore without the right kit and you will be wishing you
had spent the money. Top marks for asking the questions, and trying
to prepare yourself for the unforeseen....many don't.
Today I was in Burtonport. They are a hardy bunch there for sure - just
ask Willk - and something tells me that the owner of this SIB most probably
had neither fixed or handheld vhf for his time in the garden chair,
but I do see that its firmly tied in with bailing twine !!
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Old 22 August 2016, 21:03   #26
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This is the basic safety kit recreational boaters need to have by law here, anyone who can't afford safety gear should stick to walking beaches

Safety equipment requirements - Safety equipment - Safety & rules (Boating Handbook) - Maritime - Roads and Maritime Services
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If you come out of the boat or the boat flips at some speed,
stuff thats in the boat and not attached to you is going to be used first,
so I would say - make sure whatever that is - will get you rescued in the
location your boating in.
Whoops... perils of posting late at night.
What I meant to say was that if you come out of the boat or flip it,
the stuff that is attached to your person will be used first...etc etc
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This is the basic safety kit recreational boaters need to have by law here, anyone who can't afford safety gear should stick to walking beaches

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Sadly walking beaches and coastline seems to have been a particular dangerous activity here for the past week. Whilst I'm certainly not averse to carrying safety kit, we probably over estimate the risk we are exposed to in boating and under estimate it in things we take for granted.
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I follow Murphy's law retaining to packing. What ever you don't pack you will need the most. At the same time gps has only been publicly available for about 20 years. People have been safely boating for a good bit longer than that. I suppose we could all pack chinook helicopters but then that would take a good bit of room and fun out of the adventure of boating.
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What about a ruggedized box bolted on that hangs off the back of the transom.
No need to swim under just bolted right there's

If you were ejected out of the boat at speed, in the kind of sea conditions that would lead to said ejection, the chances of you making it back to the boat are zero to nil. You need any "shit or bust" kit securely attached to your person. IMHO


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