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Old 27 June 2006, 09:29   #11
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12t Trawler.....why no liferaft?
We don't know yet if there wasn't - commercial fishermen around here are watched all the time for any rule breaking - maybe it just didn't release? Or else because it was the first time out and the weather was good maybe they just hadn't fitted it yet.

It does say in the news story the boat capsized - liferafts don't tend to work in such cases - they can remain trapped under the boat.

Until the official report comes out we just won't know.
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Old 27 June 2006, 09:59   #12
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Most of that would be next to useless. In an emergency situation such as this one, they had no time. To find a mobile, find the correct number and hope for a signal. The boat would be under by then. It takes very few seconds to grab the mike of the vhf and start banging out Mayday. As for wetsuits? It takes me about 5 mins to get mine on. Seriously, get a vhf, preferably base mounted not handheld. I also carry a tube of flares which i could grab in about 3 seconds.
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Old 27 June 2006, 10:23   #13
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I feel that to realsitically survive any period of time in UK waters even in the summer you need to be wearing a drysuit and a lifejacket. You also need to be carrying some means of communication.

Although I wear my drysuit most of the year I've stopped doing so now because I want to enjoy the sun. I do understand that it is a risk I am taking though. I am a poor swimmer and If I was in the water for more than 5 minutes then I'm sure the cold would start to get to me.

I always wear a lifejacket and have a handheld VHF attached to it.
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Old 27 June 2006, 10:42   #14
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a very tragic accident and horrific for all involved

will be interesting to see what could have caused the boat to fill with water and go down so quick without giving the guys time to prepare

with a rib the main comfort i get is the hull is sealed so will float anyway and it has 5 separate toob compartments and multiple deck compartments reasonably sealed so the chance of a rib sinking are very very remote. would hate to be in the water for that length of time.....
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Old 27 June 2006, 13:07   #15
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Although I wear my drysuit most of the year. I am a poor swimmer and If I was in the water for more than 5 minutes then I'm sure the cold would start to get to me.
The smell might improve though.
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Old 27 June 2006, 13:20   #16
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As for wetsuits? It takes me about 5 mins to get mine on.
So? Assuming you could grab it, it will afford a modicum of insulation from the water. Put it on while you're floating.

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Seriously, get a vhf, preferably base mounted not handheld.
Ideally, get both. A base mounted unit won't do you much good when the boat flips.

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I also carry a tube of flares which i could grab in about 3 seconds.
Make sure the tube is somewhat watertight, as well. You won't want to blindly fire off all your flares, but rather wait until you see something that you want to attract the attention of. That may be after a few hours in the water.

Many of the offshore fishermen here keep a ditch bag loose on deck: A floating, waterproof kit that contains food, water, flares, whistle, a radio, perhaps a handheld GPS, and whatever else you think you might need bobbing around in an empty sea. Theory is, if the boat goes down, the bag stays on the surface. Makes sense, though whether or not you find the bag is sort of up for grabs.

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I wear my cheapy wetsuit and lifejacket while I'm out. I think gArfie's tried to torpedo me once or twice when I've jumped overboard for a pee... but I've never been cold in it.I've got a pack of pains-wessex miniflares in my waterproofs as well as the flarepack in the console.

I've got fixed vhf onboard too.
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Old 27 June 2006, 19:13   #18
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but I've never been cold in it
Not surprised if you pee in it.

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It's a WETSUIT not a semi-dry

I thought everyone did it?
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What a sad story . He must have been a tough guy .

On a point of self rescue and an idea if you are a poor swimmer . Carry a pair of flippers with your grab bag .

I used to kayak a bit with a guy who was diver he knew he wasn't great at rolling etc but liked to paddle offshore alone . He always carried pair of flippers strapped on deck . His reasoning was that with Fins on you could activly swim a good few miles to the shore even pushing something that floats .

Sounds daft but in reality I thought it was a great Idea .
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