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Old 20 November 2007, 12:15   #31
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hmm sar, rescue boat, but non declared facility/doesnt go out in the cold weather???? Sounds more like sponsored powerboating to me which is not a bad thing in itself for keeping kids off the street. Unfortunately this parent had to use his own money to give his kids a life and a sea going experience. Gave the daughter too much really as she is away in europe skippering 50ft jet drive catamarans and not helping the old man launch his boats and do the teaching. As for teenagers doing rescue work she was rnli crew at 17 and an ALB navigator at 18. And I mean proper rescue work inc at night in winter in some grim weather-not picking up broken down boats in the summer months as any passing, right minded boat owner would do anyway.
We run courses for a number of non rnli rescue boats (only one of which actually terms itself "lifeboat"), they are all declared facilities so will even go out when it becomes a little chilly!!!!!!! I have a deal of respect for these lads with declared facility status (often tucked away in remote areas not in the civilized solent) which they have worked hard to achieve with funds raised from local communities and by rattling the tin whilst packing the xmas shopping at supermarket checkouts etc for a penny or two here and there. So not all "private" lifeboats are playing at it and they do need your support.
Thanks for your views, i appreciate them.

We are not tucking ourselves away because we afraid of the cold, we have a commitment to land rescue as well as sea rescue and as it is generaly a little less active around these months at Sea, we concentrate our efforts to our land rescue providing Search and Rescue for the police in the new forest with Landrovers and 4x4 Ambulances. sometimes with these incedents we go out in the night, early hours of the morning in the cold etc etc etc..

as said before, we are not SAR declared as we have crews under 17/18.

We have our fair share of incidents both at sea and on land.

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Old 20 November 2007, 12:33   #32
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My word. How do these land facilities cope without your undivided attention in summer when there is an influx of visitors?
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and you dont go out in winter!
Must remember to only break down in summer when passing that patch on boat deliveries etc-unless of course the Solent is already particularly well served by by various declared facilities -helicopters/rnli boats/independent lifeboats etc etc who are there all the year round?
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Old 20 November 2007, 14:08   #33
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I understand what you are saying, the Solent is well covered by declared facilities, helicopters etc, ok so we may not deal with the worst incidents, but we do tow boats to safety, do pull the occasional windsufer from danger and our 46 year history speaks for itself that we have had many incidents were lives have been saved!

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My word. How do these land facilities cope without your undivided attention in summer when there is an influx of visitors?
We generaly are more focused on the boats, however the landrover and ambulances vehicles can be called upon by the Police 24/7 365 days a year, so there is still commitment to the Land rescue side of the Venturers.

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no need for that was there!

hope i have helped answer your questions?

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It's a shame you weren't around on 12th August 06.
You couldn't have done a worse job than the hamble boat whose coxswain's boat handling was utterly shit.

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I understand what you are saying, the Solent is well covered by declared facilities, helicopters etc, ok so we may not deal with the worst incidents, but we do tow boats to safety, do pull the occasional windsufer from danger and our 46 year history speaks for itself that we have had many incidents were lives have been saved!



We generaly are more focused on the boats, however the landrover and ambulances vehicles can be called upon by the Police 24/7 365 days a year, so there is still commitment to the Land rescue side of the Venturers.



no need for that was there!

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It's a shame you weren't around on 12th August 06.
You couldn't have done a worse job than the hamble boat whose coxswain's boat handling was utterly shit.
Matt,

If not top secret, can i ask what happened?

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Interesting thread. This is how it is. Venturers are not a declared facility and not recognised as a resource for Coastguard. However in todays day and age it is a good organisation to keep youngsters off the streets.

Venturers will trawl around the Solent listening to CH16 waiting for someone to make a call to C/C requesting help. They will then make there way to the casualty, like any other vessel would do. In the meantime C/C would call a declared unit and instruct that unit to take over and be on scene command.

Their are many stories about where Venturers have made a mess of things on the water, and I have certainly heard a few from my crews, but this is not the place to broadcast them.

All I can say is that if you do get in trouble in the solent and they come along dont to be alarmed as a SAR unit will be with you within ten minutes.

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Their seems to be a bit of animosity here, and I know very litle about your organisation so can not comment on much of what has been said

However I do know that you recently became accredioted by IYT (International Yachtmaster Training) to run their courses.

I wonder if you could explain what made you seek recognition with an American company rather than use the RYA training scheme, which is widely accepted as the recognised training route in this part of the world. CILB and RNLI both use it.

In the same way as you ask us to support what you do the RYA asks Brits to support them. The RYA represents British sailing and powerboating (Olympics, legislation, training, governing body etc.) and does so with great success

I for one will not support an organisation who has chosen a US company over our own governing body unless their is some reason I have missed. You may think this sounds like politics but I think the RYA do a lot for us (British boating public) and should be supported.
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Matt

Their seems to be a bit of animosity here, and I know very litle about your organisation so can not comment on much of what has been said

However I do know that you recently became accredioted by IYT (International Yachtmaster Training) to run their courses.

I wonder if you could explain what made you seek recognition with an American company rather than use the RYA training scheme, which is widely accepted as the recognised training route in this part of the world. CILB and RNLI both use it.

In the same way as you ask us to support what you do the RYA asks Brits to support them. The RYA represents British sailing and powerboating (Olympics, legislation, training, governing body etc.) and does so with great success

I for one will not support an organisation who has chosen a US company over our own governing body unless their is some reason I have missed. You may think this sounds like politics but I think the RYA do a lot for us (British boating public) and should be supported.
Hi,

I will pm you later with the reasons.

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