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Old 03 December 2007, 17:21   #91
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There must be some other reason IMHO.

Many lifeguards around the UK use CH0, many of these are under 18!
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There must be some other reason IMHO.

Many lifeguards around the UK use CH0, many of these are under 18!
Yes because you can be on the RNLI lifeboats at 17 and use the radio on ch0.

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Sorry - I thought it explained the concept pretty well! - especially since I hadn't seen it in action. Personally I am not convinced that a public sticker chart is really the most empowering way to encourage development in young people - but it obviously works for you. Other organisations would achieve the same thing with some sort of "training matix"... ...it was the fact you used "stars" and a "chart" that reminded me very much of potty training my son...

No need to feel left out RYA boys! ... I've attached a template Star Chart for you to stick in the back of your YOUR logbooks ... sorry, but sticky backed plastic not included
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No need to feel left out RYA boys! ... I've attached a template Star Chart for you to stick in the back of your YOUR logbooks ... sorry, but sticky backed plastic not included

oh come on now lol


ours at least have the sticky back plastic .

no ours our not as ....um colourful as that

Seriously though, it works, i recomend it! lol

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No need to feel left out RYA boys! ... I've attached a template Star Chart for you to stick in the back of your YOUR logbooks ... sorry, but sticky backed plastic not included

Gold stars too?

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Gold stars too?

Oh yes!!!
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You betcha... although it's all a little more PC these days...
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Surley if these guys were/are a sea SAR service and work closely with HMCG, like many others, they would be equipped with CH0 on their VHF's?
That way they, like all the others, would be under the total control of HMCG.

Is there some reason that they are not?
All IMHO again.
Yes, as Matt has said numerous times they have crews under 18 therefore they can not be a declared rescue facility.
If anyone on the crew is under 18 the boat cannot be tasked by the CG, they can only offer assistance.
Imagine if the CG tasked a boat of teenagers to an incident and something went wrong, someone was injured, someone drowned etc, it'd be fairly catastrophic and the responsibility would surely be put on the CG for tasking them in the first place.
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Sorry you will not train with us ; but this is your loss. We have
3 qualified IYT Instuctors . including Rescue Coxswain , Intermediate
and Advanced Power Boating. How many of this grade do you have ?
Do you have all the training aids , sailing dinghies , canoes , Sail Boards
Including Fixed slats to practice on a regular basis ?
Tiffy. I am not going to get into a tit for tat battle with you on this subject, but for your information we have 4 Advanced Powerboat Instructors, A Boatmaster, A Master of Trinity House Vessell Alert, and a watch officer from P & O, who holds his MCA fast rescue craft certificate. With regards to kit to use we have a good relationship with IYWAC and Hampshire Police marine section, so can use there equipment, plus have various other types of larger vessels we can get out hands on.

As I have said previously I think that you do a good job in educating minors, and keeping them off the streets, and your crews are dedicated. If problems are being illustrated to you on this forum then it may be an area that needs addressing within your organisation. Cowes Inshore Lifeboat has had its problems in the past, but these have nearly all been sorted, via training, and discussions with those people who are responsible for the errors to establish where it went wrong and what could be done in the future to prevent.

With regards to your piece about using the word "lifeboat" Under the SSRO (solent sea rescue organisation) we are allowed to use this word as are other independents in the Solent area, such as Freshwater, Hamble, Sandown.
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Well surely this is and should be correct.
If you are a declared asset then your call outs and or tasking is direct from HMCG then you need ch0.
If you are not declared then you have no need for ch0 as you will not be tasked to job from HMCG, you maybe asked to help but not given jobs to deal with on your own without back up from a declared asset.
All vessels have a duty to assist if asked as I understand it.

The last thing you need is every man and his dog getting on ch0!!
In The Solent Channel 67 is dedicated to rescue communication , and
we work with the Coastguard on 67. Channel zero would be useful ,
as it would prevent duplication of effort if we were in the loop.
Example a recent pattern search . we were tasked by C.G to assist.
with Lifeboats on 0 and us on 67 did not help communications.
There was a recent tragedy at Lepe Country Park , we had a Rescue
Rib about 2 mins from scene , with Oxygen and Defibrillator. A First
Responder Quad with same ; but first information came from Ambulance 20 mins after Coastguard were informed by 999 call. Ambulance arrived at
wrong location next to our Quad which was looking for Toy Inflatable
with 2 dogs and 2 people drifting out to sea. Had our Operational control
had Channel zero , they could informed our Quad and Rescue Rib the
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