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Old 30 October 2001, 16:10   #1
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I'm looking for info about the Valiant RIBs.

Any experience about the tube material, compared for example with the hypalon and Zodiac type PVC.

Overall quality is also one thing I'd like to get some opinions. Valiants are quite moderately priced and there is always (almost) the fact that quality goes hand in hand with the price.

Another more common question.

I'm thinking to change my Zodiac inflatable to the same size small RIB (around 3.8 m). Zodiac has a pretty flat hull and even it has an inflatable keel the ride gets really rough when waves gets bigger. I'd like to know that does the rigid hull give any real advantage with these small boats.
After all the V-angle can't be very deep but sure it's deeper than in my Zodiac.

For Keith:

I'm still going to keep on doing with the small boats. Just looking for a bit softer ride!

Jari
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Old 01 November 2001, 14:57   #2
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Most of the Valiants (apart from the big commercial ones) are available with either Hypalon or Polyurethane tubes (a bit dearer). Hypalon gets dirty easy but has a good long life, is quite difficlut to puncture and is very easy to fix. The Polyurethane tubes are very similar to the PVC as used by Zodiac, but it stays clean and keeps its colour much better. It is supposed to be harder to puncture than PVC, BUT it is VERY hard to fix (special glue etc.) and the seams give lots of trouble when it gets a few years old, particularly if left out in the sun too much.
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Old 01 November 2001, 19:03   #3
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Valiant are part of the Brunswick Corp (Mercury, Mariner, Sea Ray, bayliner etc) and only make RIBS. Mass production not only standardises quality but can also help to keep prices down.

The standard Valiant models have PVC tubes, mainly because this material can be thermowelded. Smaller manufacturers use Hypalon because it can be glued.

The small Valiants (<4m) have a single skin hull which makes them less expensive than their competitors. They are sturdy, well-built craft, and will perform better in rough conditions and cross-winds than your inflatable. Quality is good and they offer excellent value for money.

If you go to 4m+ Valiant models still compare very favourably with Zodiac etc.

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Old 02 November 2001, 06:10   #4
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Than you, Alan and Michael

your replies gave good info. Something like that I allready had in my mind about Valiants. Today I'll make a visit to the local dealer to see what they can offer.

thanks!

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Old 02 November 2001, 09:20   #5
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Hi!

From Valiant UK distributor
http://www.ibs-boats.co.uk
there are two types of materials used:

"The material is composed of a base fabric of HIGH TENACITY TREVIRA, internally and externally coated with two coats of vinyl and with an outer coat of acrylic finish which reinforces the resistance to environmental agents, ageing and dirt, making cleaning easier", for sport series

and

"AKRON TPE of High Resistance to Abrasion has been developed to be used in professional", for professional series


I did not see any reference to "hypalon". Is one of the above, with other name?


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Old 03 November 2001, 12:55   #6
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Hi Jari,

I hope you're not going soft in your old age! Or perhaps you are running out of puff !!!

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Old 07 November 2001, 17:44   #7
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Reply to Pedro:

The Trevira covered with two layers of vinyl is the PVC! The Akron TPE is a heavy duty material, but as far as I know its not Hypalon.

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Old 08 November 2001, 04:34   #8
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Thanks Mike.

Alan, you said "Most of the Valiants (apart from the big commercial ones) are available with either Hypalon or Polyurethane tubes (a bit dearer)"... , what are valiant models with Hypalon tubes?

Is polyurethane a kind of PVC?


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Old 20 November 2001, 20:36   #9
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well jari i realise i'm a bit late but i've had no problems with valiant. we fixed a hole with the repair kit. it took no time and has held fast. only had it for a season but my view is they make sturdy solid ribs
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Old 21 November 2001, 04:43   #10
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gaelforce,

What model is your valiant?


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