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Old 15 July 2013, 11:25   #1
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Upgrading to a RIB advice

I am looking to upgrade my current boat (Karnic 2050).
I am looking for a boat with the fantastic family friendly layout of the Boston Whaler Dauntless 230 but with the safe, fast, secure, superior handling, deep V, dry ride qualities of a RIB.

This maybe a loaded question but can anyone suggest any manufactures, makes & models etc.?

Finding that perfect RIB is a very difficult decision so any advice and help you can give would be most appreciated.

Thanking you in advance. Many thanks Matt
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Old 15 July 2013, 16:26   #2
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Welcome to RIBnet!

It will be difficult to shoehorn that type of deck into an affordable RIB. You should look at family oriented options like Ribeye, Avon (non-searider) and Cobra.
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Old 15 July 2013, 16:59   #3
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I am looking to upgrade my current boat (Karnic 2050).
I am looking for a boat with the fantastic family friendly layout of the Boston Whaler Dauntless 230 but with the safe, fast, secure, superior handling, deep V, dry ride qualities of a RIB.

This maybe a loaded question but can anyone suggest any manufactures, makes & models etc.?

Finding that perfect RIB is a very difficult decision so any advice and help you can give would be most appreciated.

Thanking you in advance. Many thanks Matt
Hi Matt & welcome, tricky one that, your perfect RIB could be the next mans lemon. What's your budget & intended cruising area, how many passengers will you be carrying, will you be doing long passages, crossing the Channel maybe?
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Old 15 July 2013, 17:06   #4
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Are you sure you want a rib? most of the features you list are possible without blow up tubes that encroach on the deck space - and yet conditions where safety, deep v and dry ride etc are appealing are rarely when even on the best rib you would want to be sitting on a deck chair at the bow (which seems to be the arrangement on the Dauntless 230!).

If you are just looking for something a bit more leisure styled then have a look at Valiant. They probably don't get as much discussion in these parts as they should.
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Hi Matt
Apologies if you have made up your mind, but here are a couple of comments based on your needs.
I have owned a 2050 and found deck space to be much larger than any Rib I have seen, even with the w/a cabin. As mentioned, the tubes on a rib would make a lot of difference: The beam of the 2050 is 7'6", and the Dauntless nearer 8'6. A similar sized Rib could have an effective internal beam of only 6ft and, depending on tube extension at the stern, available deck would be shorter too.
I personally didn't like the Karnic because it rolled at trolling speeds and tended to bury its bows in moderate seas. I have had other hard boats since that offer a much smoother, safer, ride but still offer the same deck space and family friendly layout. For example, the hulls of Wellcraft boats are well known for performing above their size, and even the 18ft has an 8ft beam.
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Cheers everyone for all your suggestions.

It’s not as easy as I thought, finding that perfect boat.

A usual day out for the family is either taking trips to various hotspots like; Alum Bay, Cowes, Poole Harbour, Studland Bay, Chapmans Pool etc. Or wakeboarding and tubing, or a spot of mackerel fishing to throw on the barbie. We have never slept in the cabin of the Karnic and think that more seating/sundeck at the bow would suit our needs rather than an overnight cabin.

On paper the Boston Whaler Dauntless 230 layout is perfect for us and fits our criteria exactly. The one major fly in the ointment and it’s a big fly is the ride. With only a 16 degrees deadrise the ride is going to be far too slammy and uncomfortable when the chop & wind picks up.

I have been caught out a couple of times in the Karnic coming back from Cowes. RIBS just seem to relish the chop. Whilst the Karnic is banging & slamming about, RIB’s just cruise past cutting through the chop like a hot knife through butter.

If I could mirror the Dauntless interior layout into a RIB. Boooooooooom. Perfection.

Somehow I think I am dreaming so will continue with my boat research.

Thanks again for all your help.
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Bear in mind that there are RIBs and RIBs Some deep V some not so deep V. Hence you have had questions like what do you want to use it for.
If it is to cope with the Solent chop, and keep your fillings in, you need to be thinking about something with a deeper V. Then again, what will your budget stretch to, in general the longer the hull, the better the sea keeping for a particular hull form.
It is not easy; you need to be more specific with your needs/intended use.
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The valiant 620 is a very family friendly boat with a lot of space with lots of storage and is very dry. I have been out happily in F6 on mine with no issues but it depends on the driver. I only ever get water over the bow when I stop as the bow deflects it really well under way.

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Old 16 July 2013, 10:20   #9
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Nobody has mentioned our favourite Irish Rib builder yet!

....and Ducie, welcome to ribnet!

- As has been said above one man's meat & all that.... Could you maybe do a charter or two and get a feel for how a given size of rib would suit you & your family's needs? -

Mrs 9D recons one of these nice Jenneau cabin things would do her nicely! Looks like I'm on the hunt for a cheap redbay!
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Nobody has mentioned our favourite Irish Rib builder yet!
Willk's probably keeping his powder dry:P
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