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Old 13 June 2014, 16:20   #71
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Are lifejackets and killcords a legal requirement in the UK?
I'm not sure if that was a ref to coding rather than LJ's/cords?
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Are lifejackets and killcords a legal requirement in the UK?
you know answer to that. coastguard posted similar last week and planned prosecution for over load. Cops trying to save lives by telling crews of dangers is to be thanked or shall we wait to see another Padstow.
Everyone has a choice but not at the price of someones elses life or a life changing injury
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you know answer to that. coastguard posted similar last week and planned prosecution for over load. Cops trying to save lives by telling crews of dangers is to be thanked or shall we wait to see another Padstow.
Everyone has a choice but not at the price of someones elses life or a life changing injury
There's a lot in that reply!

1. Hard to know what I know. As the "Overseas" Admin, I know my own law better than yours. LJs are a legal requirement here. Killcords are not.
2. Overload: RIBs tend to have very large load numbers (silly, IMO) - I guess based on buoyancy rather than seating arrangements? It is what it is.
3. Cops telling people/oiks to do things that aren't "The Law" tend to be told to fkk off.
4. Padstow - doubt we'll have to wait long.
5. Everyone has a choice. I concur. People do what they like. You can force some of the more pliable ones to do what they should, but most will do what they like...
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Old 13 June 2014, 16:49   #74
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Are lifejackets and killcords a legal requirement in the UK?
Is legal to do a lot of things in some parts of the world...Doesn't make them right or sensible.

In my view that's a very very odd post ..almost not trying to reinforce good boating practice as 'is not illegal '......
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5. Everyone has a choice. I concur. People do what they like. You can force some of the more pliable ones to do what they should, but most will do what they like...
Trouble there is:-
1) People don't usually understand the consequences of their (in)actions.
2)People won't say anything if they do know something's not right for fear of 'rocking the boat'.

3) Bored of this discussion. Education education ad nauseam.
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In my view that's a very very odd post ..almost not trying to reinforce good boating practice as 'is not illegal '......
My post is about the Police response to the bad boating behaviour. If it's not against the law they can't do anything... Think about it: "Excuse me, Mr. slobbering late night drunk, do you realise that the salt and fat levels in that kebab could kill you and cause untold misery for you family?" "Fkk off pig"

PATENTLY it's a p1ss poor idea. No point in expecting the cops to do much about it if it's legal...

P.S. Anyone expecting me to toe the party line today is p1ssing upwind
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There's probably some minor public order offence the police could use if they really wanted to make the point. Doubt it'd hold up in court, but it'd mess the morons day up.
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There's probably some minor public order offence the police could use if they really wanted to make the point. Doubt it'd hold up in court, but it'd mess the morons day up.
Yeah, they could. They could do it with ribber's filling cans at petrol stations too, or ribbers with illegal loads, or badly set up lighting bars and prop bags. My experience of the police suggests that if they put their minds to it, they could make anyone's day go off. Luckily they generally don't. Luckily for bikers and jetskiers especially.

Upwind I say...
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Doubt it'd hold up in court
Oh, don't start me on Judges.....
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I know one thing, if someone stuck a picture of me at sea on here regardless of what they thought of my (not illegal) behaviour, I would not be best pleased. Let's face it there aren't that many accidents and the ones that do happen are very often on coded boats with RYA qualified skippers. Don't get me wrong I am a great proponent of better standards and safer activity on the water and I too see these muppets charging around the sea without a care in the world but surely life is too short to spend our time posting pictures of them on an otherwise very good forum.
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