Twin engine rib courses

[chris.moody]

Originally Posted by boristhebold

I would be interested in a short half day course along the lines of;

1. Classroom - learn the differences of one engine vs two engines techniques, manoovering etc. say 1 to 2 hours
2. Practicle - 2 hours, comming alongside, manouveres etc
3. Classroom - recap 1 hour

cost - would be willing on paying up to £125.00

if thats any use for feedback

What would be really good would be as above practising with single outboard / outdrive, twin outdrive, twin screws, so the trainees get a direct comparison of all three in identical wind / tide conditions.

Throw in a Hamilton jet as well and it would be an awesome course. I would have paid £150 for a half day doing that without hesitation. It would have been much easier than picking it up "as the opportunity arose".

The fuel costs would be minimal as it is all done on tickover :-)

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Tigga - Avon SR4 Rescue with 40hp Yamaha 2 stroke

[tim griffin]

Originally Posted by chris.moody

What would be really good would be as above practising with single outboard / outdrive, twin outdrive, twin screws, so the trainees get a direct comparison of all three in identical wind / tide conditions.

Throw in a Hamilton jet as well and it would be an awesome course. I would have paid £150 for a half day doing that without hesitation. It would have been much easier than picking it up "as the opportunity arose".

The fuel costs would be minimal as it is all done on tickover :-)

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Tigga - Avon SR4 Rescue with 40hp Yamaha 2 stroke

Ok leave it with me as working on the jet drive element but all other bases covered but would need a minimum 8 to cover costs of boat hire fuel and instructors.
Cheers
Tim

[tim griffin]

Originally Posted by chris.moody

What would be really good would be as above practising with single outboard / outdrive, twin outdrive, twin screws, so the trainees get a direct comparison of all three in identical wind / tide conditions.

Throw in a Hamilton jet as well and it would be an awesome course. I would have paid £150 for a half day doing that without hesitation. It would have been much easier than picking it up "as the opportunity arose".

The fuel costs would be minimal as it is all done on tickover :-)

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Tigga - Avon SR4 Rescue with 40hp Yamaha 2 stroke

Ok
Can offer the following
7 m rib with outboard 12 m PRincess V 40 twin out drives 9.8 Beneteau Antares on twin shafts and a 8 m jet rib cost £135 minimum of 6 to make it pay but can do this on a regular basis if proves popular
Cheers
Tim

[9D280]

I did my (ahem) sportsboat and subsequent rescue endorsement on an SR 5.4 with twin 30s. Genius plan by the centre- the rest of the fleet was SR4s with a single30...

Unless you are on a cat the advice I was given for close quarters was "pick an engine & stick with it".

At the beam of a rib the in vs out leverage difference is nothing you can't compensate for with a bit more throttle.

Advice that has worked for me for the last years...

[John Kennett]

Originally Posted by tim griffin

Ok
Can offer the following
7 m rib with outboard 12 m PRincess V 40 twin out drives 9.8 Beneteau Antares on twin shafts and a 8 m jet rib cost £135 minimum of 6 to make it pay but can do this on a regular basis if proves popular
Cheers
Tim

Sounds like fun, and really good experience. I'd be up for it, dates permitting.

[Searider]

Originally Posted by chris.moody

Spend 30 mins doing turns in a confined space and you will be fine.

So for example it is:
Full right lock
Port engine tickover forward
Back to neutral
Full left lock
Starboard engine tickover astern
Back to neutral
And repeat

Chris

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Tigga - Avon SR4 Rescue with 40hp Yamaha 2 stroke

At a basic level that's about it - but there is a lot more you can do - for example making the boat go sideways(ish) when moving out from a berth.
Steer towards the berth, astern on the outside engine to get the bow out, back to neutral, ahead on the inside engine to get the stern out - then also astern on the outside engine a little - on some boats this can get them moving sideways.

Years of practice on a 10m twin sterndrive cruiser up on the Thames as a teenager!

I'm not sure how it would work on a deep V rib with the engines close together though - probably best on Tim's V40

[tim griffin]

Ok let's talk dates weekend for most I guess
Thinking end of the month or first weekend in NOvember
Cheers
Tim

[Chris Caton]

Originally Posted by tim griffin

Ok let's talk dates weekend for most I guess
Thinking end of the month or first weekend in NOvember
Cheers
Tim

hi Tim, if you get enough people wanting to do the course I'd like come along at some point, but it would have to be in the new year after I get over my op end of Nov, not get a twin setup myself, not really thinking of getting one in the near future either, but it would be good to have a go at a variety of options, never know when the need may arise

[tim griffin]

Hi Chris
Will keep you posted as a couple of days a year on this sort of boat handling day could be good
Tim

[Chris Caton]

Originally Posted by tim griffin

Hi Chris
Will keep you posted as a couple of days a year on this sort of boat handling day could be good
Tim

sounds good Tim

[tim griffin]

Ok Sat 2nd of November weather permitting , I need 8 as a minimum to cover costs . Price per person is £135
Next date after this will be early April next year
Cheers
Tim

[GordyP]

Originally Posted by 9D280

I did my (ahem) sportsboat and subsequent rescue endorsement on an SR 5.4 with twin 30s. Genius plan by the centre- the rest of the fleet was SR4s with a single30... Unless you are on a cat the advice I was given for close quarters was "pick an engine & stick with it". At the beam of a rib the in vs out leverage difference is nothing you can't compensate for with a bit more throttle. Advice that has worked for me for the last years...

I used to work there 25 years ago, it may even have been me! Lol

I loved those 4m, fantastic safety boats and easy to teach all manner of courses from.

[John Kennett]

Originally Posted by tim griffin

Ok Sat 2nd of November weather permitting , I need 8 as a minimum to cover costs . Price per person is £135
Next date after this will be early April next year
Cheers
Tim

Can't do this one, but keep us posted. Hope to see some pictures in due course

[tim griffin]

Originally Posted by John Kennett

Can't do this one, but keep us posted. Hope to see some pictures in due course

Next one will be April next year
Tim

[boristhebold]

Count me in, how do I book ?

[tim griffin]

Go to Powerboat Training complete the online booking form and send a deposit via the online payment form
Thanks
Tim

[C2 RIBS]

What Tim has put together sounds great, as I told him I can't do that date but hope free on next one. Despite thousands of hrs working I relish some time on the various drives in or day to update skills. Can never do too much training

[Chris Caton]

can't do this one Tom, put keep me in mind for next April, I should be back to firing on all cylinders by then, and as someone else as just said can't do enough good training, maybe even 2 of us for the day

[PeterM]

Much the same as Ian and Chris...a spring session works well for me. Maybe drag AJ/Avocet/250 in to(give me time to work on them).

[tim griffin]

Seems most are keen for next year ,I am still happy to run it on the 2nd of November so come on book up .
Tim