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Old 23 October 2013, 07:07   #21
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I would be interested in a short half day course along the lines of;

1. Classroom - learn the differences of one engine vs two engines techniques, manoovering etc. say 1 to 2 hours
2. Practicle - 2 hours, comming alongside, manouveres etc
3. Classroom - recap 1 hour

cost - would be willing on paying up to 125.00

if thats any use for feedback

What would be really good would be as above practising with single outboard / outdrive, twin outdrive, twin screws, so the trainees get a direct comparison of all three in identical wind / tide conditions.

Throw in a Hamilton jet as well and it would be an awesome course. I would have paid 150 for a half day doing that without hesitation. It would have been much easier than picking it up "as the opportunity arose".

The fuel costs would be minimal as it is all done on tickover :-)

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Old 23 October 2013, 07:53   #22
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What would be really good would be as above practising with single outboard / outdrive, twin outdrive, twin screws, so the trainees get a direct comparison of all three in identical wind / tide conditions.

Throw in a Hamilton jet as well and it would be an awesome course. I would have paid 150 for a half day doing that without hesitation. It would have been much easier than picking it up "as the opportunity arose".

The fuel costs would be minimal as it is all done on tickover :-)

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Ok leave it with me as working on the jet drive element but all other bases covered but would need a minimum 8 to cover costs of boat hire fuel and instructors.
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Old 23 October 2013, 11:49   #23
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What would be really good would be as above practising with single outboard / outdrive, twin outdrive, twin screws, so the trainees get a direct comparison of all three in identical wind / tide conditions.

Throw in a Hamilton jet as well and it would be an awesome course. I would have paid 150 for a half day doing that without hesitation. It would have been much easier than picking it up "as the opportunity arose".

The fuel costs would be minimal as it is all done on tickover :-)

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Ok
Can offer the following
7 m rib with outboard 12 m PRincess V 40 twin out drives 9.8 Beneteau Antares on twin shafts and a 8 m jet rib cost 135 minimum of 6 to make it pay but can do this on a regular basis if proves popular
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Old 23 October 2013, 11:54   #24
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I did my (ahem) sportsboat and subsequent rescue endorsement on an SR 5.4 with twin 30s. Genius plan by the centre- the rest of the fleet was SR4s with a single30...

Unless you are on a cat the advice I was given for close quarters was "pick an engine & stick with it".

At the beam of a rib the in vs out leverage difference is nothing you can't compensate for with a bit more throttle.

Advice that has worked for me for the last years...
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Ok
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7 m rib with outboard 12 m PRincess V 40 twin out drives 9.8 Beneteau Antares on twin shafts and a 8 m jet rib cost 135 minimum of 6 to make it pay but can do this on a regular basis if proves popular
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Sounds like fun, and really good experience. I'd be up for it, dates permitting.
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Old 23 October 2013, 12:17   #26
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Spend 30 mins doing turns in a confined space and you will be fine.

So for example it is:
Full right lock
Port engine tickover forward
Back to neutral
Full left lock
Starboard engine tickover astern
Back to neutral
And repeat

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At a basic level that's about it - but there is a lot more you can do - for example making the boat go sideways(ish) when moving out from a berth.
Steer towards the berth, astern on the outside engine to get the bow out, back to neutral, ahead on the inside engine to get the stern out - then also astern on the outside engine a little - on some boats this can get them moving sideways.

Years of practice on a 10m twin sterndrive cruiser up on the Thames as a teenager!

I'm not sure how it would work on a deep V rib with the engines close together though - probably best on Tim's V40
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Old 23 October 2013, 12:24   #27
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Ok let's talk dates weekend for most I guess
Thinking end of the month or first weekend in NOvember
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Ok let's talk dates weekend for most I guess
Thinking end of the month or first weekend in NOvember
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hi Tim, if you get enough people wanting to do the course I'd like come along at some point, but it would have to be in the new year after I get over my op end of Nov, not get a twin setup myself, not really thinking of getting one in the near future either, but it would be good to have a go at a variety of options, never know when the need may arise
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Hi Chris
Will keep you posted as a couple of days a year on this sort of boat handling day could be good
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Will keep you posted as a couple of days a year on this sort of boat handling day could be good
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