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Old 11 February 2017, 08:13   #1
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Tube deterioration opinions?

I've agreed to help out with some of the tube repairs on our sailing club ribs most are just bits of abrasions and trying to prevent ropes chafing etc.
One boat in particular seems to be suffering with the glue giving way, there are numerous places where seams are lifting and tapes coming off
The boat is 2010 manufactured and is a different make to the other 3 which are ribcraft, it is from a well respected UK manufacturer.
My question is, 1)is this type of deterioration to be expected and just part and parcel of the hard life and little love club boats receive or has the boat had a problem from day 1
2) how long is the usual warranty on tubes & is it worth contacting the builder or just get on with the repairs and accept it
I think the boat is hypalon although it does have a different surface texture to the material of the ribcrafts could it be a variation of hypalon or is it likely to be pvc? It doesn't feel plastic but definitely different to the ribcrafts

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Old 11 February 2017, 08:54   #2
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Some hypalon does appear shiny and pvc like after sevral years'
Hypalon will usually be grey or black on the back, pvc is normally the same colour on both sides.
That is quite serious glue failure and will probably need the strake removing at the bow to fix it.
I doubt after this length of time you will get much joy from the manufacturer.
Hypalon tubes should last a lot longer than 6 years.

Happy to discuss and offer advice if you want to contact me
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Old 11 February 2017, 12:44   #3
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There's a scratch test you can do hypalon leaves rubber bits, poly marine have a bit on thier site telling the difference
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2) how long is the usual warranty on tubes & is it worth contacting the builder
Sometimes as little as 1 yr! But I don't think I've ever seen more than 5yrs.
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Sometimes as little as 1 yr! But I don't think I've ever seen more than 5yrs.
Hmm I guess if it was 5 years it may have been worth contacting them and asking for some form of goodwill gesture this isn't a recent problem the front tapes were definitely off last winter and I guess they were lifting well inside 5 years
I've looked on the builders Web site but can't find any reference to warranty periods
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My boat Mercury HD xs warranty 5 years PVC, 10 years hypalon 1 year fittings.
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My boat Mercury HD xs warranty 5 years PVC, 10 years hypalon 1 year fittings.
Sorry Jeff I don't quite understand a 10 years warranty on hypalon but what brand is that or is that mercury warranty terms?
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Haku

Ken it states warranty on PVC & hypalon products so I guess they use different fabric manufacturers as it implies more than one.
My PVC is Haku on the heavy duty boats not sure of the other makes but they are a lot lighter than my boat.
But 5 years on PVC for me was good enough difference in price between the two fabrics was £1100.
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It isn't a fabric warranty you need, it is glue.
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It isn't a fabric warranty you need, it is glue.
That is a good point!
Surely if manufacturers are offering 10 years warranty then presumably that warranty would cover boats falling apart at the seams?

I think it's a manufacturing/ glue problem but wanted to get others opinions I can reglue the dodgy bits but personally I think it's only a matter of time before the rest starts to let go and the boat becomes unusable

I suspect the manufacturer of this boat doesn't offer a long warranty as there is no mention on the website and you would think it would be a selling point
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