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Old 11 February 2017, 14:57   #11
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Mine is welded

I learnt the hard way to always cover my toobs I stuck two new name patches on my rib did it text book left it a couple of days with cover off came back to it and the patch in the sun had slid down the glue had got that hot it couldn't hold the patch on the vertical I recon that's what happens to uncovered toobs constant heating and cooling breaks the glue down yes it can get attacked from the edge but it's got a long way to go to do the above damage.some boats are better than others but loads of problems can occur at the manufactures during the gluing process I don't think it's down to glue as its one thing that can be ridgidly monitored during its production.OMO
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Old 11 February 2017, 15:01   #12
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I have no idea of the constraints of the glue warranty on any rib but given how bad that is you have nothing to lose sending them an email asking if they ever had a bad batch of glue, if that is the case then they may have agreed something with their glue supplier to offer some help. I doubt that is the case but worth an ask.
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Old 11 February 2017, 15:26   #13
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Are all the affected areas on the top side like in the photos if so I think they would ask has it been under cover/protected and if it were a glue issue why hasn't it gone below the strake line ( if it hasn't ) but worth a phone call.


I've just done that with a seaswan cover which has been leaking, I was asked is it taught and not pooling water ( no) that's the problem water gets through the stitching I'll send you a pole FOC carnt beat that always worth talking give it a try you never know.
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Old 11 February 2017, 15:29   #14
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My Chinese friends offer 5 years on valmex pvc ,and 10 years on orca hypalon ,suspect that is transferred direct from the manufacturer (ie 10 years orca hypalon) , so maybe you have a way forward with the hypalon manufacturer
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Old 11 February 2017, 17:22   #15
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The boat has been outside uncovered all its life but so have the ribcrafts and there fine. My thoughts were the manufacturer should have been contacted sooner as this has been occurring for a while.
I haven't had a good crawl underneath so can't say if it's just topside that's damaged.
I'll maybe drop the manufacturer an email with the pictures but realy wanted to get other people's thoughts as to what was reasonable to expect before I contacted them
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The 5/10 years people are quoting will be fabric warrenty from fabric manufacturer, this won't stretch to the construction (tube manufacturer) and installation (boat builder maybe) which would be different warranties added by those people. I'd expect those to be 1yr. Of course if bought new the point of contact for all of the watrenty would be the manufacturer but I can't see 5+ yrs on, with what certainly doesn't look like a fabric issue - they'll be any comeback.

You'd better budget for a new tube my fiend !
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Old 12 February 2017, 04:57   #17
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Oh, for what it's worth I had a 10yr old ballistic tube basically falling apart at the seams. The glue was failing not the hypalon. Baffles went first, but there was no strength in the glue. It could be picked apart by hand with little physical effort.

She's still running about now after a reTube by ED "ribraff" or RibTube Dartmouth, as he's known professionally.
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Normally 5 year warranty...... Now I have looked at your pictures and I can tell you any glue exposed to the sun will turn brown within hours.. BUT lifelines and nose strips should not have peeling edges... Ribcraft and Henshaw Inflatables use hypalon with Bostik glue...
Maybe what we have here is a tube build issue - not being rolled enough or the hypalon not being sanded good,but also if the whole tube and strips are peeling off that would most likely be the glue - Bostik ...
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The 5/10 years people are quoting will be fabric warrenty from fabric manufacturer, this won't stretch to the construction (tube manufacturer) and installation (boat builder maybe) which would be different warranties added by those people. I'd expect those to be 1yr. Of course if bought new the point of contact for all of the watrenty would be the manufacturer but I can't see 5+ yrs on, with what certainly doesn't look like a fabric issue - they'll be any comeback.

You'd better budget for a new tube my fiend !
Agree reading my warranty I only expect 1 year, Humber offer a two year making toobs in house (hypalon)
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That is a glue failure and is more than likely due to hardener not being added during the build. The glue is photosensitive which turns it brown when exposed to the weather and it usually looks darker than that.
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