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Old 13 January 2017, 15:55   #11
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how much fuel do you carry spare on these trips
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Old 13 January 2017, 16:26   #12
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I usually have 200 litres in my boat
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Old 14 January 2017, 08:28   #13
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Breezeblock - has the youngster at the front with the Lloyds Register BA ever tried it in the water?
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I presume so thats what he uses for canoeing
Well it doesn't fit/isn't fitted correctly. So I presume not! Difference is I'm a forum basher not the skipper of a boat so I can justify presuming. What's your excuse?
Have you tried lifting him by the shoulder straps. You should be able to lift him off the ground and his chin still be above the top of the buoyancy aid. I'm not even convinced it is just sat there!

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how much fuel do you carry spare on these trips
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I usually have 200 litres in my boat
God I must be in a bad mood today...

Thats not an answer to the question! How many litres do you expect to use? How many did you use? I realise thats well below 200litres. What breezeblock was presumably asking was not did you carry £250 of fuel but what you would feel comfortable with as spare. So if you turned up with only 50litres having been on a bit of a ribbing frenzie would you insist on filling up before you go out? Do you use a rule of thumb - fuel required plus 10, 20, ... 25%?

Do you carry any separate fuel in case of contamination issues?

I think some of this depends on things like how certain you are on your consumption, How certain you are you have 50litres on board etc. So if you could say you consistently use 1litre +/- 10% per NM you should factor on 1.1l/NM and then some contingency fuel. The contingency needs to factor in if you can divert to a safe haven, and would ideally be fuel from furthest point to safe haven at safe but not max speed. But thats not always practical...
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Old 14 January 2017, 08:57   #14
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Well it doesn't fit/isn't fitted correctly. So I presume not! Difference is I'm a forum basher not the skipper of a boat so I can justify presuming. What's your excuse?
Have you tried lifting him by the shoulder straps. You should be able to lift him off the ground and his chin still be above the top of the buoyancy aid. I'm not even convinced it is just sat there!




God I must be in a bad mood today...

Thats not an answer to the question! How many litres do you expect to use? How many did you use? I realise thats well below 200litres. What breezeblock was presumably asking was not did you carry £250 of fuel but what you would feel comfortable with as spare. So if you turned up with only 50litres having been on a bit of a ribbing frenzie would you insist on filling up before you go out? Do you use a rule of thumb - fuel required plus 10, 20, ... 25%?

Do you carry any separate fuel in case of contamination issues?

I think some of this depends on things like how certain you are on your consumption, How certain you are you have 50litres on board etc. So if you could say you consistently use 1litre +/- 10% per NM you should factor on 1.1l/NM and then some contingency fuel. The contingency needs to factor in if you can divert to a safe haven, and would ideally be fuel from furthest point to safe haven at safe but not max speed. But thats not always practical...
Geez, get off the high horse

This is all statute miles......

Since we are getting into specifics I use 0.8lpm normally, as it was rough I used about 1. 1lpm. As we left from Stranraer to Bangor it isn't the shortest route but the safest all things considered at time. I can't mind how far it was but I think circa 40 miles and I burned about 80-90 litres from memory there and back.

So, I had over 100 litres spare but I always fill my boat to brim no matter where I'm going.

I never carry jerry cans no unless it is for the 8hp 2stroke aux.

If fuel gets contaminated it will be LT towing me in or my aux if alone obviously. My hoses are hard wired in so not too easy to swap over anyway. I have had bad fuel before about 18 months ago but it happened about 1 mile from harbour so poodled back in on aux.

I know my boat has a 225l tank but I set the chart plotters up for 200l so I have 25l buffer built in for fuel flow inaccuracy over nmea engine data, it is usually about 5% max off being correct though.

When myself and LT are out we normally do about 80 miles but we have done about 120 a few times. In other words not enough to worry the 200l I have.

If I was going to go somewhere and be tight on fuel I would keep in mind I have 25l not on my GPS for utter emergency and a normal reserve of 20%

Phew........ Happy?
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Thank you - much more informative.

While I follow the logic of always being full to the brim on fuel - you ever tried to compare stats to see what the extra 100kg of weight does to your range?
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Boat is 1600kg with no people on it, the fuel burn is same 0.8-0.9lpm at start of day as it is at the end so it doesn't make enough difference to make it worth the trips to station with a Jerry can to top up more often.
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Well it doesn't fit/isn't fitted correctly. So I presume not! Difference is I'm a forum basher not the skipper of a boat so I can justify presuming. What's your excuse?
Have you tried lifting him by the shoulder straps. You should be able to lift him off the ground and his chin still be above the top of the buoyancy aid. I'm not even convinced it is just sat there!




God I must be in a bad mood today...

Thats not an answer to the question! How many litres do you expect to use? How many did you use? I realise thats well below 200litres. What breezeblock was presumably asking was not did you carry £250 of fuel but what you would feel comfortable with as spare. So if you turned up with only 50litres having been on a bit of a ribbing frenzie would you insist on filling up before you go out? Do you use a rule of thumb - fuel required plus 10, 20, ... 25%?

Do you carry any separate fuel in case of contamination issues?

I think some of this depends on things like how certain you are on your consumption, How certain you are you have 50litres on board etc. So if you could say you consistently use 1litre +/- 10% per NM you should factor on 1.1l/NM and then some contingency fuel. The contingency needs to factor in if you can divert to a safe haven, and would ideally be fuel from furthest point to safe haven at safe but not max speed. But thats not always practical...
must be great being fault free
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I was going to put up a post enquiring where I could get non spill bottle holders for the boat but seeing as the traffic wardens are out I wont bother
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I was going to put up a post enquiring where I could get non spill bottle holders for the boat but seeing as the traffic wardens are out I wont bother


Never mind him you post what you want as long as it's within the rules. He's got to much time on his hands!!
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