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Old 04 July 2019, 18:28   #1
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Ok here is a tricky one, I observed a chap with his family in a boat today in the marina trying to come alongside a pontoon, apparently hes only had the boat 3 days, a small sports boat, the way he was handling the boat in a narrow channel on the throttle probably a third forward with the handle, engine roaring boat lurching then same in reverse, looked a nightmare, I am totally convinced that he will injure himself in an accident or someone else very soon, so the question is what would you say to them, they really need some training. No-one is perfect but this chap is just dangerous its as simple as that. should someone say something to them, should it be the marina persons that say something ?

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The other thing I saw today which made me cringe was a beautiful yacht I think an Oceanstar 48.1 trying to go down the narrow channel by cobbs dry stack pontoon toward the fuel berths, only problem was that yacht has a keel depth of 1.9M and the channel depth at the time (about an hour before low tide) was approx 1.7M or 1.8M (0.9M chartered or 1.0M + 0.8M), and yes it ran aground right opposite the dry stack pontoon. ouch.
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I think you need to stop finding things to worry about, & get on with your own life
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Ok here is a tricky one, I observed a chap with his family in a boat today in the marina trying to come alongside a pontoon, apparently hes only had the boat 3 days, a small sports boat, the way he was handling the boat in a narrow channel on the throttle probably a third forward with the handle, engine roaring boat lurching then same in reverse, looked a nightmare, I am totally convinced that he will injure himself in an accident or someone else very soon, so the question is what would you say to them, they really need some training. No-one is perfect but this chap is just dangerous its as simple as that. should someone say something to them, should it be the marina persons that say something ?



Thoughts welcome.



The other thing I saw today which made me cringe was a beautiful yacht I think an Oceanstar 48.1 trying to go down the narrow channel by cobbs dry stack pontoon toward the fuel berths, only problem was that yacht has a keel depth of 1.9M and the channel depth at the time (about an hour before low tide) was approx 1.7M or 1.8M (0.9M chartered or 1.0M + 0.8M), and yes it ran aground right opposite the dry stack pontoon. ouch.

Havenít we all been there? Or is it just me?
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It seems to me that you should affect a slight "W" speech impediment and shake your head from side to side, allowing yer jowls to flap a bit and say:
"Itsh awbsolwootley weprewhensible!!"

For more positive reinforcement you might need one of these:

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Havenít we all been there? Or is it just me?
"Ya haven't been around if ya haven't been aground."

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Borris,

2 questions for you:

1. Have you ever known any man take unsolicited advice from a total stranger, who criticised their use of / skills operating something with an engine?

2. If a total stranger came up to you and started telling you you were an idiot (I know that is not how you would word it - but that is what he will hear) in front of your family how would you react?

He may realise heís out his depth in which case heíll find some training or heíll stop using / sell the boat. Clever marina staff might be able to make him aware of local providers or even suggest a special offer for marina users/families etc - but Iíd say itís not that unlikely that youíd get thumped if you approach it wrong!
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Borris,

2 questions for you:

1. Have you ever known any man take unsolicited advice from a total stranger, who criticised their use of / skills operating something with an engine?

Boris reply - yes if its constructive and helpfull, and in this case it would be e.g. he should operate throttle from the base of the throttle lever when manouvering at slow speed so that he can apply a small amount of throttle rather than from the top of the lever where there is a tendancy to apply too much throttle as you have less control on fine movement of thr throttle.

2. If a total stranger came up to you and started telling you you were an idiot (I know that is not how you would word it - but that is what he will hear) in front of your family how would you react?

boris reply - not necessarily, construcive critisism is just that, its how its delivered, maybe he would welcome some advice.

He may realise he’s out his depth in which case he’ll find some training or he’ll stop using / sell the boat. Clever marina staff might be able to make him aware of local providers or even suggest a special offer for marina users/families etc - but I’d say it’s not that unlikely that you’d get thumped if you approach it wrong!
boris reply - I think by the time he realises that, it will be too late and he will allready have had an accident.

boris reply - If I see him again at the marina I will show him the trick with the throttle at low speeds.
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I think you need to stop finding things to worry about, & get on with your own life
No real need to be rude, I was just asking some advice or is that not the done thing anymore on this forum.
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This is how you get into the pontoons on the narrow channel at Cobbs Quay:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BUtZHURF...on_share_sheet
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No real need to be rude, I was just asking some advice or is that not the done thing anymore on this forum.


Not being rude at all. You asked for thoughts & that what I genuinely think. Iím being very sincere (for a change) you canít change the world, for every idiot, thereíre plenty more queuing up behind him. Let them get on with it. Did anyone get hurt? Itís not a problem until itís a problem, then you deal with it. Donít go seeking them out.
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