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Old 21 August 2008, 18:57   #71
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re northcraft

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if you start a thread off you should want to finishe it
just cus may b you dont like the comments or agree with them thats no reason to stop
may i ask what the rib cost i estimate about 30k ish any more and somebody is proffiterieng..
looks like the s/s plate has solved the transome area i assume northcraft fitted this. if so then they did sort it out????
still looks like the engine was fitted too high, the lower fins should b just under the hull not 5 " above must have lost a lot of power on the plane
as you said you have had ribs befor this should have been noticed

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Old 21 August 2008, 19:50   #72
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you are always better to get the full package direct from the boat bulider this saves money and you know its done right
Can't agree with this sweeping statement, I saved a packet buying my motor seperately and fitting it myself.
I also can't see the point of this thread, the discussion was done to death on the original thread and there doesn't seem to be anything new on this one..........
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Old 22 August 2008, 09:18   #73
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slightly different, but something i have often wanted to discuss here.

i beleive the transom is a weak point on almost all ribs. generally very poorly supported. on a "speedy" boat (no tubes) the transom is braced into the whole outfit by the deck, not so on a rib.

many users will have no problem but using a rib hard in big seas (i mean real big seas, not the solent in a F5, thats insignificant) and most importantly making progress, covering miles in these conditions with 200+ Kg of outboard most ribs will see a problem cracking along the transom / deck join. i fit this class of user, and anyone who knows me, i beleiv will agree. when i go ribing, i go whatever, and i cover long distances, driving the boat hard to do so.

various manufacturers try to overcome this by bracing, those i recall:
  • tornado & BWM fit grp "knees" (and others i am sure)
  • osprey have small moulded cubes on each site (provide cable access and storage)
  • avon use s/steel external braces

i have had serious cracking along the deck / transom join on my past 3 ribs, thats a BWM , an Osprey and now the RibTec.
Despite the fact that you have broken a BWM, an Osprey and a Ribtec, I would still offer you a 5 year hull (and transom!) warranty on a BananaShark with any outboard or inboard you would like to fit.
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When a boat looks that good who needs tubes!!!
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Old 22 August 2008, 09:21   #74
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still looks like the engine was fitted too high, the lower fins should b just under the hull not 5 " above must have lost a lot of power on the plane
as you said you have had ribs befor this should have been noticed

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We have fitted a 250 Verado, and we were advised to fit it very high, and the acceleration was incredible with virtually no slip - you could even leave the trim set for normal running and still floor it from a standstill.
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Old 22 August 2008, 11:46   #75
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you are always better to get the full package direct from the boat bulider this saves money and you know its done right, and if not you can always take it back



the varado is not a easy engine to fit if you speek to the engine makers they will say you need more clearance than i think you have at the top of your transome
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dont agree here .....Verado cannot be installed by the boat builder unless he is a certified mercury dealer which FYM are in big muz's case.......they need to be switched on by laptop once installed. looking at Northcraft's website there is no mention of them being merc dealers, suzuki yes merc no.

you also mentioned 'if not you can always take it back' ........isnt that what he did ....if i spent what Big Muz did then i too would have done exactly the same and probobly more for my inconvience ......

Cookee ....the verados are fun aint they


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dont agree here .....Verado cannot be installed by the boat builder unless he is a certified mercury dealer which FYM are in big muz's case.......they need to be switched on by laptop once installed. looking at Northcraft's website there is no mention of them being merc dealers, suzuki yes merc no.

you also mentioned 'if not you can always take it back' ........isnt that what he did ....if i spent what Big Muz did then i too would have done exactly the same and probobly more for my inconvience ......

Cookee ....the verados are fun aint they


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I hate to disagree with you, but you're wrong!

Manufacturers can fit Verados without being regular dealers - in fact we are an "OEM" dealer and don't have the computer to set them up - we fit everything and take the boat to a Verado dealer to have them do the PDI and set it up.

The thing to remember here is that the builder will fir the engine as they see fit and the Mercury dealer probably won't even go out in the boat, but just get it working.

Yes verado's are a lot of fun, and I was sorry to see our 250 go!
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Old 29 August 2008, 13:06   #77
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I know this thread's been done to death now, but I just had to post this impressive piece of engineering by Northcraft. Guess it saves having to buy a seperate boat and tow vehicle! Rigid Inflatable Landrover anyone?!

http://www.capetocape.org.uk/
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Any photos of the bad repair that they carried out?

I emailed them about a boat and never heard a sniff back!
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Any photos of the bad repair that they carried out?

I emailed them about a boat and never heard a sniff back!
Yes I posted them on another thread, but they should really be here. Remember, the 2 triangular knees were coming away from the transom, as confirmed by two independant surveyors, and the front edge of the transom on the top side was all burst due to the delamination. You could tap around the flow coat either side of each knee, and there was considerable boss areas either side. Northcrafts answer was to sikaflex some right angle stainless, over the splits on the top edge of the transom, with two straps coming down onto the fronts of the knees, these had a small bolt screwed into the knee with a black cap over them. It has got to be the most ill thought, inefective and botched repair I've ever seen. They didnt even cut the stainless cleanly, it had ragged edges at either end on the inside.
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I know this is an elderly thread but I am considering a Valiant 570 - are you still pleased with the boat?
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