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Old 14 August 2009, 18:45   #11
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JUst read your post Muzz.
From what your saying it could just be the engines holding the two mouldings together worse case scenario?
Bad design if it is?
KInd of .. but its worse than that.. the transom is bonded to only a few bits of wood below the deck

The leverage provided by an outboard on the transom is absolutely massive.. and its about 6 inches to a foot above the join on the deck on most ribs, so it doesn't surprise me that they break. My current boat has a box arrangement in front of this joint and is inherently stronger
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Old 15 August 2009, 03:29   #12
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Is the moulding just the splash well joined to the hull?
That might be the case, is there an easy way to find out? I've also emailed Zodiac and am waiting for their "excuse"

If that is indeed the case, what are the implications? I'm enclosing a few pictures of the transom taken during the prepurchase survey in France (surveyor didn't bring out the subject opening).

As you can see from the topside picture of the splashwell, The engine mounting bolts are seen evenly spaced out from the inside of the transom just below the steering system.
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Old 15 August 2009, 04:37   #13
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Is it something wrong with the transom though? Or just where the splash well sits on top of the transom? That would explain why it's just had a sealant in between the two? If it is just that (and I'm not the most experienced on here by a long way) will it be structural?
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That surprises me to see separation from that design .. you have the supports at either side but not in the middle, but you also have the floor that should make that set up quite strong IMO. Looking at the pics again looks as if it has been filled by someone before, and it has just opened up again, after some use.

Was the presale survey carried out by the vendor or arranged by the vendor ? Do you know the person who sold it to you ?
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Is it something wrong with the transom though? Or just where the splash well sits on top of the transom? That would explain why it's just had a sealant in between the two? If it is just that (and I'm not the most experienced on here by a long way) will it be structural?
I can't figure that out yet. So far the only indication is the visual separation as seen in the pictures. There's no signs of leakage or water entry into the bilge.
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That surprises me to see separation from that design .. you have the supports at either side but not in the middle, but you also have the floor that should make that set up quite strong IMO. Looking at the pics again looks as if it has been filled by someone before, and it has just opened up again, after some use.

Was the presale survey carried out by the vendor or arranged by the vendor ? Do you know the person who sold it to you ?
The boat is 2001 built and apart from this seems to be very well looked after. No rattles anywhere.

I'm a surveyor myself (although dealing in mobile offshore units, oil rigs and the like - not so much experience with FRP and small craft) and I arranged the survey through an associate in Europe (who will be hearing from me!!)
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I agree with Bibmuz for the first reason that this happens. But there’s a second reason: you have to keep in mind that there’s a lot of weight hanging on to the transom while trailering (hope you write it like this) What I mean is that when you’re on the road approx. 400KG will bounce on every hole in the road and gives a torsion on the transom. You can prevent this by make standaards for the tail of the motors to the trailer and keep the weight of from the transom. The repair won’t be difficult in this case I believe, I agree with repairs as mentioned.
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Here's a picture of another medline 3 transom I found on the net, this is probably how it was supposed to be originally.

I'm reposting the picture of my boat's transom next to it for comparison
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So they dont lap the top of the transom over, and just fill the gap between the top/deck and hull ? or is this another 'failed' one ?
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So they dont lap the top of the transom over, and just fill the gap between the top/deck and hull ? or is this another 'failed' one ?
I don't believe this is a failed one coz if you see the part behind the engine itself, it seems to be one piece (the bonding intact). Both sides seem to have caulking inserted.

I wonder if this is just the splashwell top bonded on here as Chewy suggested and nothing structural?
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