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Old 29 September 2005, 16:36   #41
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That's the word that counts!!! Experience!!! I learnt far more from my instructor AFTER the course was over when we went out for a play!!!

Bet I will learn quite a bit bringing my boat back from Guernsey in October!!!

I will shortly be doing my first aid course - have done plenty of them in the past but to be honest a waste of time without the experience which you will NEVER have until you do it for real - I may know how to tie off an artery and perform an emergency tracheoctomy but don't think I would be much good if I had to do it for real - one sight of blood or a needle and I am a goner!!!
ok i am confused....why do a first aid course if you have done plenty and they are a waste of time? first aid...waste of time without experience....who are you going to practice on to get experience? ? hopefully first aid training will give you the benefit of knowing what to do in the unfortunate situation of either standing there like some spare part, or doing something useful to help the person and not doing something that might kill them or increase the injurys! so in my book very useful to know if.....if you have to put it into practice

also you keep saying training is not that useful but experience is best........are you one of these people with no qualifications or had no training with a chip on their shoulder?

i was an aircraft engineer for 10 years, i wasnt experienced but was trained what to do and how they work, i did not have the benefit of fiddling with my dads Jet at the weekends so it was classroom and practical.

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experience is great, even experienced people can benefit from further training. Classroom training is great for some but is often more benefit when coupled with a practical session to put the theory into practice!!!!! then repeated practice in different situations makes an experienced person
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bringing my boat back from Guernsey in October!!!
That's just 26 hours and 15 minutes away! I hope Des has got planty of ketchup to go with his RNLI hat
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ok i am confused....why do a first aid course if you have done plenty and they are a waste of time? first aid...waste of time without experience....who are you going to practice on to get experience? ? hopefully first aid training will give you the benefit of knowing what to do in the unfortunate situation of either standing there like some spare part, or doing something useful to help the person and not doing something that might kill them or increase the injurys! so in my book very useful to know if.....if you have to put it into practice

also you keep saying training is not that useful but experience is best........are you one of these people with no qualifications or had no training with a chip on their shoulder?
The ONLY reason i am taking a first aid course is because I have to as I wish to become commercially endorsed next year.

I DO have qualifications - a First class honours degree in Physics amongst others BUT i don't hold much score by them. I have people coming to me for jobs with all these magic bits of paper who don't have a bloody clue. On the other hand some of the best employees we have don't possess many formal qualifications.

My brother is a classic example - due to health probs he left school with NO qualifications of any description - and yet he is THE best computer guru I have ever come across - wherever he has worked everyone respects him for what he KNOWS. He has done several Cisco adn Microsoft exams as I have but gave up on them as pretty pointless because so many people are taught how to pass exams without really having a clue as to what is really going on!!!
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Like this bloke in the yellow car?

That's just 26 hours and 15 minutes away! I hope Des has got planty of ketchup to go with his RNLI hat
They haven't told me WHEN in October though!!! Supposed to be getting a definite date on Monday - we will see!!!

Again that video is a classic - trouble is if there had been no witnesses around the coach driver would have been at fault as he would have rammed the car!!!
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I DO have qualifications - a First class honours degree in Physics
Which? Physics or Astrophysics? What University?

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Really? Everyone I know who says that has a chip on their shoulder - because they can't or won't do the exams.

They open doors. Believe me, they really do!
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Which? Physics or Astrophysics? What University?

Really? Everyone I know who says that has a chip on their shoulder - because they can't or won't do the exams.

They open doors. Believe me, they really do!
It was Physics with Astronomy. In Swansea.

I admit I WONT do the exams any more - only because I find them so pointless and a waste of money - between us my brother and I have about 12 of them - also various Cisco exams. Never been on a course or anything - just read up on them and paid for the exams.

I have actually come across people who have done some of the exams who just haven't had a clue - really bad. Some of them had sat them in India - either the standards are different or else it is true that some people pay others to sit the exams for them!!! having said that some of the British people who had done them were just as useless.

It is like the number of people doing degrees these days. Media studies for example. I know a few radio DJs and what they say about such people is unprintable - put on you CV that you have a degree in media studies and you are guaranteed NOT to get a job with the media!!! Having said that maybe they would do a better job!!!
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By the way for anyone who DOES want to do the exams i would suggest looking at the CBT Nuggets - brilliant home study material - forget expensive courses!!!
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By the way for anyone who DOES want to do the exams i would suggest looking at the CBT Nuggets - brilliant home study material - forget expensive courses!!!
If they are that good, and you know that from experience, then surely you would have passed all the exams?
I don't have a personal view on CBT Nuggets as I haven't used them myself, but I was told by a good source that they are a completely useless waste of cash. You pay your money and make your choice!
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It was Physics with Astronomy. In Swansea.
BSc? What year did you graduate?
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If they are that good, and you know that from experience, then surely you would have passed all the exams?
I don't have a personal view on CBT Nuggets as I haven't used them myself, but I was told by a good source that they are a completely useless waste of cash. You pay your money and make your choice!
I DID pass all the exams - never had below 90% but that is not the point!!!

That good source can't have used them then - or else maybe they suit people like me better who learns far better alone!!!

As to a waste of money - er well umm.............
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