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Old 29 September 2005, 06:04   #31
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Forget all this danger at sea stuff for a mo.!! What about the danger on the roads of West Sussex that is Donuts in his 911. The guy admits to being a raving liability!!
10 years driving, no (own fault) accidents, full no claims bonus, military driving courses up the ying yang, so I wouldnt say I'm a raving liability - but still not afraid to acknowledge that I'm far from an expert driver and that my better half is probably safer at the time of writing (inexperience means that she is naturally more cautious and more likely to stick to road laws)...if you fancy a few laps at goodwood molly, give me a shout!
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Old 29 September 2005, 07:15   #32
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As to a few trips out in a little RIB they are likely to teach you FAR more than you would learn in a bigger boat - you REALLY have to watch the weather like a hawk and you are so close to the water you have a much better idea of what is going on!!!
OMG! It seems that because I have never been anywhere in a really tiny boat I am therefore incompetant and have no idea what is going on!

Did my Yachtmaster Offshore in a large Princess, and have had quite a few hard boats and RIBs over the years, but nothing under 5.5 metres.

By the way I think the point that was being made was the experience between the level 2 and advanced tickets, not total experience, but if you're that good why not just go for the Advanced or the Coastal skipper / Yachtmasters theory and follow it up with a practical - much more use for someone of your experience I would have thought?











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OMG! It seems that because I have never been anywhere in a really tiny boat I am therefore incompetant and have no idea what is going on!

Did my Yachtmaster Offshore in a large Princess, and have had quite a few hard boats and RIBs over the years, but nothing under 5.5 metres.

By the way I think the point that was being made was the experience between the level 2 and advanced tickets, not total experience, but if you're that good why not just go for the Advanced or the Coastal skipper / Yachtmasters theory and follow it up with a practical - much more use for someone of your experience I would have thought?

Did I say that??? NO - I said it gave you a far better idea!!! My instructor has done a lot of Sea Kayaking - made me realise he will know far more about tides and currents than even a Yachtie - when you have to paddle all the time like that you WILL know all about tides turning etc!!!

As to going for the Advanced I wanted to but was told on here that you HAD to do the level 2 first!!!!
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As to going for the Advanced I wanted to but was told on here that you HAD to do the level 2 first!!!!
Really? I read just about everything that gets posted and I don't remember that being said publicly. Maybe it was while we were on holiday.

If we'd seen the post, I'm sure Richard or I would have put you straight as Richard did his Advanced without doing PB2 first. The instructor allowed this as he knew the RYA school that Richard had done Dayskipper practical with and knew he had done Dayskipper theory too and had a couple of years' experience in boats already.
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It was the GENERAL feeling I had after reading lots of different posts on the subject.

Training for an old salty sea dog

Alright they don't say here that you MSUT do level 2 first but that was the way I thought it had to be done.

Having said that I don't feel as if I have wasted my time or money - had a bloody great 2 days - the hours spent out in the rough on the second day were amazing!!!
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Having said that I don't feel as if I have wasted my time or money - had a bloody great 2 days - the hours spent out in the rough on the second day were amazing!!!
Glad to hear it! IMHO, it is very rare that training is a complete waste of time. There's usually something new to learn or something you hadn't thought of or needed reminding of, and even if that's not the case, it's all experience!
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Glad to hear it! IMHO, it is very rare that training is a complete waste of time. There's usually something new to learn or something you hadn't thought of or needed reminding of, and even if that's not the case, it's all experience!
That's the word that counts!!! Experience!!! I learnt far more from my instructor AFTER the course was over when we went out for a play!!!

Bet I will learn quite a bit bringing my boat back from Guernsey in October!!!

I will shortly be doing my first aid course - have done plenty of them in the past but to be honest a waste of time without the experience which you will NEVER have until you do it for real - I may know how to tie off an artery and perform an emergency tracheoctomy but don't think I would be much good if I had to do it for real - one sight of blood or a needle and I am a goner!!!
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That's the word that counts!!! Experience!!!
Thought you'd like that!

As a huge fan of lifelong learning, I think both training AND experience are important! Just my humble opinion.
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Thought you'd like that!

As a huge fan of lifelong learning, I think both training AND experience are important! Just my humble opinion.
Totally agree - what really gets me these days is that the bits of paper outweigh the experience every time!!!
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I will shortly be doing my first aid course - have done plenty of them in the past but to be honest a waste of time without the experience which you will NEVER have until you do it for real - I may know how to tie off an artery and perform an emergency tracheoctomy but don't think I would be much good if I had to do it for real - one sight of blood or a needle and I am a goner!!!
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